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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio this is an

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encore appearance the power cast with

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gene Steinberg on our co-host Chris

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O'Brien we're going to be talking again

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with dr. John Brandenburg and the last

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time he joined us and that's the January

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2nd 2011 show the first of the year he

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was talking about lots of interesting

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things including the book that he was

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working on at the time called life and

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death on Mars the new Mars synthesis

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well since then the book has been

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published and this is one of the first

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shows anywhere on this planet maybe not

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on Mars where you'll hear all about it

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and we'll talk about the book and why a

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plasma physicist became intrigued with

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the red planet and why people in general

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are intrigued with the red planet so Jon

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welcome back to the power cast a

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Christian it's great to be back and yeah

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we've got a lot to talk about um well

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actually John has a new book coming out

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that's called beyond Einstein's

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relativity is that know beyond science

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Unified Field okay right gravitational

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electromagnetic magnetism redefined is

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the subtitle and this way about the gym

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unification theory that I have developed

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right which is one of your major career

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goals that you've been working on what

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my major career goals yes right we're

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gonna be covering that and as well as

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your you know most recent book that's

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that's been published called life and

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death on Mars the new Mars synthesis and

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we're gonna be getting into a lot of the

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interesting aspects of your work your

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sideline work studying Mars that we

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weren't able to cover in your first

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appearance on the show and there's a lot

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of interesting stuff I want to get into

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about that including your theory of an

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airburst nuclear explosion on Mars which

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we'll we'll cover as well yeah what are

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the things I wanted to start with John

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is the fascination we all have a

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fascination with Mars why is that

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is it because somewhere in our racial

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memory we came from there really or just

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because Mars is there and it's distinct

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yeah there is a very eerie

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since that perhaps we all want to go

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back to Mars because that's where we

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started from

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and based on the best science we have

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now you know they've of course had NASA

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scientists say that we've had found

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signs of life on early Mars from this

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one alh84001 the Mars Rock and that

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shows that life was on Mars about as

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soon as the solar system formed and

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they've also found evidence in earth

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rocks that going back almost four

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billion years that Earth was alive

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almost as soon as the surface cooled off

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enough to have an ocean and of course

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you know when there are foreign first

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foreign it was really hot and and so was

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Mars but Mars cooled off quicker as far

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as from the Sun and it was smaller so

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both Earth and Mars probably were seeded

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from the same source so the universe is

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probably full of spores of living that

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basically just like that cupcake you

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push to the back of your refrigerator

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somehow gets mold on it you don't know

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how after a couple months the same thing

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has happened to the planets basically

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there's spores in space that basically

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end up on the planets and it's called

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pantless ideas called panspermia by the

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way it's a very it's a very old idea it

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actually goes back to the ancient Greeks

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but the what happened was Mars probably

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became biologically a growing concern

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far earlier than Earth Earth was a

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little back earth was a big hot house

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kind of a giant swamp where only the

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most kind of primitive kind of bugs

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lived Mars cooled off became much more

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like Earth as now and probably supported

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advanced life forms much before Earth

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did earth actually for about for earth

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was formed four-and-a-half billion years

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ago for about four billion years of that

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they're almost nothing happened on earth

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there were just bacteria and mold and

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stuff like that maybe a little algae

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and there was and then suddenly half a

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billion years ago we had what was called

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the Precambrian explosion where suddenly

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life on earth just blossomed into all

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these different forms and all of

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Aleutian in there was one of the things

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that appeared was actually predators

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predators have breathed oxygen and you

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must understand in the bacterial world

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oxygen is like nitro is to drag racing

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it is a high energy fuel and once a

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bacteria masters burning oxygen it can

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outrun all of the other predators and

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bugs that use just like make methane and

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stuff like that to what's called

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anaerobic respiration has far less

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energy now

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the question has always been what

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triggered this explosion of life on

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earth a cornucopia of strange stuff I

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mean stuff is so weird they call a

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hallucinogenic solution the djinns is

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one of the species they found because it

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looks so weird look like something from

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a hallucination and this all happened

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half a billion years ago about that same

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time on Mars a big asteroid apparently

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plowed into Mars and probably spewed

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rocks covered with Mars life all

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throughout space and so the Precambrian

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explosion Mars died as you know it's

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biosphere apparently collapsed because

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of this big asteroid impact just about

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the time life really got going on earth

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and so perhaps the very Cambrian

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explosion was an invasion from Mars

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nudge on the exams life on Earth is

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actually Martian the old bacteria

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that's old primitive life on Earth the

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new life on Earth

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you know multiply shell your animals

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jellyfish you know trilobites stuff like

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that that that maybe Martian well we

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wrote here on meteorites let me

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interrupt you here for a second because

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our current the current Journal of

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cosmology there's a very interesting

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paper that's been published

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dr. Richard Hoover which talks about

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fossil fossils of cyanobacteria that

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have been found on carbonaceous

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meteorites and he found absolutely NASA

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NASA agreed with his results and now

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they're backtracking you want to talk

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about that oh oh oh yes well what thing

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you have to realize we're poised on the

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edge of a second Copernican revolution

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we're gonna we don't think we're the

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geometric center near the universe but

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everybody thinks were the center of the

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biological universe we're the Masters of

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the only thing in the universe that

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matters that's alive except in Star Trek

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and of course you have all these other

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races but then who believes Star Trek

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right well yeah remember 1984 you had

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double think people can entertain two

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contradictory ideas and their mind at

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the same time one of them is that we are

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masters of the universe the human race

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and that's because we are masters of

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this little oasis in the middle of the

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desert we think that that is the entire

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world there's just this Oasis Living

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Oasis and then desert lifeless desert

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and at the same time you tell other ass

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scientists who are criticizing anytime

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anybody like who refines evidence for

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extraterrestrial life they jump all over

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him

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what happen in the case of NASA they try

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to disown him even though he's been a

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serious NASA researcher and this man is

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a very careful man I've talked to him

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he's very careful with his techniques he

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is his findings are solid and I'm gonna

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tell you the really big shoes it's gonna

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drop here just in a minute but I'll tell

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you people even science educated

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scientists do not like the idea that

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they're gonna find extraterrestrial life

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it's it's the difference between an ID

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and the abstract and the idea and the

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real and the idea and the real means

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they are demoted it's almost as if

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they're telling me Brandenburg I am

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struggled and to become head of my

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department I'm bucking for Dean of Arts

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and Sciences and you're telling me I'm

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nothing so basically the arrival of

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knowledge that et is here is real owes

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okay so that knowledge you're saying can

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basically destroy the domain zombie nice

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yep okay yep and and I'll tell you the

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other shoe that's gonna drop by the way

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that the meteorites he carved into are

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in 1996 yeah we'll go into that more in

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a moment because shooting has to drop

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it's called the sponsorship shoe we're

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talking to dr. John John Brandenburg the

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co-host is Chris O'Brien I'm gene

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alright the lively dr. John Brandenburg

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he's a plasma physicist the co-host is

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Chris O'Brien I'm gene steinberger in

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the power cast and we were discussing

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other shoes that begin and end with

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what's happening our knowledge about

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Mars so you're saying that the

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meteorites that supposedly contain

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evidence of et they are from Mars all of

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them they are also from Mars like

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alh84001 and what it is is the the way

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you tell where a meteorite comes from is

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oxygen isotopes and chromium isotopes

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and you can rank every major body in the

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solar system has a distinctive signature

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apparently in oxygen isotopes you know

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the oxygen chemicals are all the same

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the oxygen chemically acts the same so

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it but the nuclear structure is slightly

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different among the oxygens Mars has a

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slightly lighter type of oxygen mix of

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isotopes than earth does so that's how

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they can tell if a rock is from Mars

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they test the ice oxygen isotopes and it

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says ok Mars all was all the meteorites

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from Mars have the same oxygen isotopes

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what's incident is really interesting is

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the isotopes for Earth are identical to

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the moon so that's why people believe

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the moon actually in the earth form

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together or split apart or something

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their isotopes are the same now also

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there's another new isotope system

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called chromium and that identifies Mars

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versus earth and other planets are like

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other meteorites from the asteroid belt

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they have the different asteroids in the

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asteroid belt apparently have different

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signatures however if you test the CI

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for their oxygen isotopes and their

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chromium isotopes

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it says Mars and this by the way got an

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extremely angry reaction when I

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published it because the Cir two percent

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organic manner and they're very ancient

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like alh84001 they're four and a half

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billion years old apparently they're old

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Martian lakebottom is what they are

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lakes formed on Mars full of cosmic dust

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forming mud and then that got blown into

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space by other big rocks and sent to

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earth and that's the CI and our all

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meteorites from Mars are just as oh no

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no no but only one in a million meteor

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righteous for Mars there are millions of

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meteorites in the collections there are

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only a dozen CI and there are only a

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dozen Mars meet recognize Mars

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meteorites so they're about they're

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about fifty-fifty if you include the CI

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with the Mars meteorites then you have

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about twenty four meteorites all told

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out of millions that fall out of the sky

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most of the meteorites come from the

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asteroid belt where there's constantly

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collisions between asteroids and that

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blows a little chunks off them and then

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they end up on earth and as it turns it

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out there are little pieces of lava in

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the CI and the labem a ch's Mars the

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mark the Mars meteorites are all lavas

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and those lavas have a element in them

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called olivine and the olivine in the CI

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matches Mars chemically and isit ah

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and it's isotopes so there but by the

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way people were very angry with me when

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I made this I published it I had was a

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big fight to get it published I

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published that people would show up at

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meetings and be angry with me he was

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such a nice guy how could they be I know

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I know but apparently I really annoy

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certain people and they have long gray

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beards and I tend to pull on their beers

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when I'm arguing with them and this one

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guy got up and said what you said is

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absolutely wrong and I know this guy and

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I checked my notes what the statement I

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had made that there were by the way that

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the see I don't

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any little hypervelocity impacts on them

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like every other meteorite except the

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Mars meteorites and I said they don't

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have any hypervelocity impacts and he

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got up said that's not true

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bah humbug and I checked my notes I had

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quoted his article on the CI for my

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meteorite so I said I showed this to him

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after in the hallway I said his name was

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John also I said John you just

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contradicted your own article in there

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he just looks at me because just because

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the isotopes say they're for bars that

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doesn't mean they're from ours what

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stomped away the isotopes don't lie

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though the isotope they're they're

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basically fingerprints the fingerprint

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these things have the same fingerprints

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as the Mars meteorites and that means

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that they're from Mars

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and that means if you cut them open at

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the find bacteria in them you're

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basically just validating the the work

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of mackanin company at NASA they what

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they what Hoover has basically all done

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all over again is discover life on Mars

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and which makes perfect sense because

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well he doesn't mention anywhere in his

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paper in the abstract it oh I know we've

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discussed that and he basically said

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well John I'm just trying to get people

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to believe that they're actually these

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you know these bacteria he said I don't

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want to get involved in the big fight

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about where they come from everyone

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believes they come from outer space and

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he says so therefore if I find bacteria

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in them in there from outer space then

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there's life in outer space my babies

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died and I understand that he's trying

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to he's trying to pull everybody along

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gently okay let me ask you a question

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that occurs to me John is okay

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so maybe this evidence of life in outer

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space is Martian but is there any

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evidence anywhere of life in outer space

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elsewhere yes there is there's a

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completely different type of meteorite

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which is similar it's similar to the CI

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it's kind of watery it's it's dried out

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clay but it's full o it's riddled with

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bullet holes

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hypervelocity impacts out in the

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asteroid belt is clearly from the

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asteroid belt and they found a bacteria

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fossil in that - and it's called

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Murchison and the reason Murchison is

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important it's what's called ACM

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carbonaceous chondrite and it's oxygen

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isotopes by the way are absolutely

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different than the CI and the Mars

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meteorites and Earth they are completely

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different and they are probably most

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likely from the asteroid belt they look

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like they're from the asteroid belt and

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what happened was people could they

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picked this thing up when it was still

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hot it fell in Australia and they picked

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it up and um basically put it in a you

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know sterile canister so there's no

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question that it was contaminated with

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earth light and then they found this

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fossil and if they you know it's very

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sparse I think they found just a few

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fossils in Murchison of bacteria or what

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look like bacteria and it's a so so

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there is a separate line of evidence for

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just life in outer space spores that

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float around but when they find when

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they find a place like Earth or Mars a

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warm wet place it's just like you know

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fungus finding that that nice cupcake in

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the back of your refrigerator that you

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forgot about so basically ladies and

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gentlemen I want to make this very clear

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opportunistic fungus I'd like to repeat

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that five times backwards that's right

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we have dr. John Brandenburg his new

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book just is called life and death on

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Mars the new Mars synthesis and we'll

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explore the Martians and the mysteries

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and lots more the coasters Chris O'Brien

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I'm gene Steinberg you're in the para

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two about the para cast which I believe

615
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is the gold standard the paranormal

616
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radio listen to it if you can we have

617
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dr. John Brandenburg second visit to the

618
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para cast because the last time he was

619
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here he had this book coming out that we

620
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kind of touched on life and death on

621
00:27:45,870 --> 00:27:43,240
Mars the new Mars synthesis Chris

622
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:45,880
O'Brien's the co-host this week we're

623
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:48,850
gonna be covering that book and all the

624
00:27:54,150 --> 00:27:51,730
ramifications thereof now when we look

625
00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:54,160
at Mars and we're seeing these microbes

626
00:28:01,260 --> 00:27:57,820
the CI being from Mars and even a

627
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:01,270
picture of one of the algae growth that

628
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:04,360
Hoover had found that's in the book so

629
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:06,850
the book was published with the

630
00:28:12,060 --> 00:28:08,650
knowledge that Hoover was finding these

631
00:28:15,090 --> 00:28:12,070
things so basically you actually

632
00:28:21,150 --> 00:28:15,100
predicted the news cycle I did kinda

633
00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:21,160
kind of surgery okay what inspiration

634
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:25,390
get out of a rum bottle but I'm just

635
00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:27,970
cover here okay so we look at this thing

636
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:32,230
and we have these ancient meteorites

637
00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:33,910
that might have helped seed our planet

638
00:28:37,980 --> 00:28:35,950
so maybe in some vague sense we are the

639
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:37,990
Martians come back that's right it's

640
00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:41,650
like we want to return ourselves why we

641
00:28:46,830 --> 00:28:44,260
have this longing for Mars I'm serious

642
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:46,840
about that it's it's almost it's almost

643
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:49,890
as if we're nostalgic for our old little

644
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:53,170
little puddle of mud on Mars where we

645
00:28:59,070 --> 00:28:56,170
formed our genetic material so basically

646
00:29:01,710 --> 00:28:59,080
now if the Dead sea-bottoms of Barsoom

647
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:01,720
is the late great and Colitis Burroughs

648
00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:03,610
wrote about you know well over a hundred

649
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:05,620
years ago John Carter of Mars by the

650
00:29:09,030 --> 00:29:07,450
word they're making a movie of that all

651
00:29:12,390 --> 00:29:09,040
right I have another day of information

652
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:12,400
okay so we now have this fascination

653
00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:14,890
with Mars and but we I have always

654
00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:17,350
looked for Martian mysteries and tree

655
00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:18,190
Gus and maybe

656
00:29:22,169 --> 00:29:19,990
I'd like to cover some of the things

657
00:29:24,509 --> 00:29:22,179
that we look at so for example at one

658
00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:24,519
time we thought there were canals on

659
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:27,340
Mars right as recently as maybe the 50s

660
00:29:32,490 --> 00:29:30,129
and 60s we said well we these are canals

661
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:32,500
and they are remnants of some kind of

662
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:36,129
ancient artificial construct but what

663
00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:37,600
happened with that that kind of went by

664
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:39,700
the wayside well they got the first

665
00:29:45,810 --> 00:29:41,919
probes to Mars so they could actually

666
00:29:46,350 --> 00:29:45,820
look at Mars when you look at Earth from

667
00:29:49,049 --> 00:29:46,360
Earth

668
00:29:51,509 --> 00:29:49,059
through the atmosphere at Mars it's like

669
00:29:54,629 --> 00:29:51,519
looking down a hot Highway in the Mojave

670
00:29:57,930 --> 00:29:54,639
you see all these heat waves constantly

671
00:30:02,310 --> 00:29:57,940
blurring the image of Mars and your your

672
00:30:06,029 --> 00:30:02,320
eye is basically built part of our

673
00:30:10,289 --> 00:30:06,039
survival software and the AI brain

674
00:30:13,379 --> 00:30:10,299
system is to connect dots particularly

675
00:30:15,570 --> 00:30:13,389
straight lines because those mean if

676
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:15,580
you're in the woods if one of our

677
00:30:20,490 --> 00:30:18,399
ancestors ends in the woods and fails to

678
00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:20,500
spot the straight line coming straight

679
00:30:26,249 --> 00:30:23,980
at him then he is dead and he no longer

680
00:30:28,289 --> 00:30:26,259
contributes to the gene pool straight

681
00:30:31,649 --> 00:30:28,299
things are associated with man's worst

682
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:31,659
enemy which is other men other human

683
00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:33,850
beings carrying Spears and shooting

684
00:30:38,580 --> 00:30:37,240
arrows so those are straight those

685
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:38,590
things are straight so they'll fly

686
00:30:45,149 --> 00:30:42,850
around the fly right and so when the

687
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:45,159
human eye looked the human eye was the

688
00:30:50,369 --> 00:30:48,610
best optic system they had in those days

689
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:50,379
they couldn't and you couldn't take good

690
00:30:54,690 --> 00:30:52,620
part of photographs of Mars because the

691
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:54,700
photographs just looked blurry because

692
00:30:59,789 --> 00:30:57,490
they would by the time the you got

693
00:31:02,519 --> 00:30:59,799
enough light from Mars to expose the

694
00:31:04,019 --> 00:31:02,529
photographic image the the heat waves in

695
00:31:07,499 --> 00:31:04,029
the Earth's atmosphere had smeared it

696
00:31:09,389 --> 00:31:07,509
out so they would basically spend hours

697
00:31:13,350 --> 00:31:09,399
staring through the telescope looking at

698
00:31:14,999 --> 00:31:13,360
Mars and trying to connect you know make

699
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:15,009
sense out of what they were seeing and

700
00:31:20,909 --> 00:31:19,090
that was they tended to connect dots on

701
00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:20,919
Mars and that's where the canals

702
00:31:26,009 --> 00:31:23,500
apparently came from now when we got to

703
00:31:28,590 --> 00:31:26,019
Mars we didn't find any canals and that

704
00:31:30,210 --> 00:31:28,600
was a big disappointment and a lot of

705
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:30,220
people then just said in fact if we

706
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:31,600
found a bunch of craters in

707
00:31:35,340 --> 00:31:33,070
people were very frightened during the

708
00:31:36,750 --> 00:31:35,350
Cold War at that time and it was like

709
00:31:41,370 --> 00:31:36,760
they just said Oh Mars is dead

710
00:31:43,289 --> 00:31:41,380
he's like the moon forget Mars and it

711
00:31:45,180 --> 00:31:43,299
was only later when they got better

712
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:45,190
probes but they found out the Mars

713
00:31:51,270 --> 00:31:48,250
recover of dried river channels so well

714
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,280
the canals of Lowell became basically

715
00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:53,679
the river dried river channels of

716
00:32:00,810 --> 00:31:56,590
Barsoom that we see now Mars is covered

717
00:32:04,049 --> 00:32:00,820
with dry river channels they have oceans

718
00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:04,059
of water flowing around on Mars perhaps

719
00:32:09,620 --> 00:32:07,510
half a billion years ago so we see now

720
00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:09,630
that we're talking about ancient life

721
00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:13,780
nothing recent so well it's it's Mars is

722
00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:16,350
only a shell of what it was once was

723
00:32:22,110 --> 00:32:19,980
what turned Mars from a planet that

724
00:32:25,770 --> 00:32:22,120
probably looked from a distance much

725
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:25,780
like Earth was a Mars is next to the

726
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:28,510
asteroid belt in so it was just an

727
00:32:35,340 --> 00:32:31,120
accident waiting to happen

728
00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:35,350
it had a big ocean and you know you know

729
00:32:40,350 --> 00:32:37,630
that oceanfront property is always

730
00:32:42,330 --> 00:32:40,360
popular because it stays the

731
00:32:45,299 --> 00:32:42,340
temperatures stay mild because the ocean

732
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:45,309
is a big heat reservoir it stays warm in

733
00:32:51,090 --> 00:32:48,090
the winter and cooler in the summer and

734
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:51,100
at the same time oceans can store

735
00:32:55,409 --> 00:32:53,289
especially if you have a big co2

736
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:55,419
greenhouse like on Venus if you had that

737
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:58,240
on Mars the ocean stores a whole bunch

738
00:33:02,850 --> 00:33:00,880
of carbon dioxide is soda water so if

739
00:33:04,770 --> 00:33:02,860
there's any like a big impact from an

740
00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:04,780
asteroid or something on Mars and it

741
00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:07,929
blows away part of the atmosphere and

742
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:10,390
tries to chill the planet then the ocean

743
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:12,880
keeps the planet warm and bubbles out

744
00:33:17,490 --> 00:33:14,799
more carbon dioxide to replace the

745
00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:17,500
atmosphere that was lost in Mars to kind

746
00:33:24,090 --> 00:33:20,590
of just keep going but if there's too

747
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:24,100
big of an asteroid and Carl Sagan

748
00:33:26,940 --> 00:33:25,840
Believe It or Not was the first person

749
00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:26,950
to figure this out

750
00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:29,590
and I give him credit in the book he

751
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:31,720
figured out that if you that if you had

752
00:33:36,810 --> 00:33:33,850
this big co2 greenhouse on Mars so you

753
00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:36,820
get have limpid water ocean rivers that

754
00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:38,799
it was an accident waiting to happen

755
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:40,750
it was like a big boulder on top of a

756
00:33:45,210 --> 00:33:43,600
cliff if something nudged it it would

757
00:33:47,399 --> 00:33:45,220
fall off the cliff

758
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:47,409
and wouldn't be able to get back up

759
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:50,289
again because carbon dioxide as you know

760
00:33:58,399 --> 00:33:55,090
forms dry ice and things get cold enough

761
00:34:01,500 --> 00:33:58,409
on Mars to form dry ice at the poles and

762
00:34:03,299 --> 00:34:01,510
if you had a big asteroid that produced

763
00:34:05,850 --> 00:34:03,309
kind of a nuclear winter sort of

764
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:05,860
situation the temperature could quickly

765
00:34:12,839 --> 00:34:08,770
drop in the Martian poles far below

766
00:34:14,849 --> 00:34:12,849
Antarctica on earth and you the ice

767
00:34:17,129 --> 00:34:14,859
actually starts the carbon dioxide will

768
00:34:18,810 --> 00:34:17,139
freeze out of the atmosphere once the

769
00:34:20,700 --> 00:34:18,820
fruits are sap's freezing out of the

770
00:34:22,409 --> 00:34:20,710
atmosphere it gets colder because the

771
00:34:24,990 --> 00:34:22,419
greenhouse effect goes away because it

772
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:25,000
depends on the carbon dioxide so it's a

773
00:34:32,099 --> 00:34:27,450
it feeds on itself so you get a

774
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:32,109
planetary wide climate collapse and as I

775
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:33,970
said Carl Sagan was the first person to

776
00:34:40,530 --> 00:34:36,399
point out that Mars had the potential

777
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:40,540
for a climate collapse kind of a dead

778
00:34:46,859 --> 00:34:42,609
world now though maybe we have microbes

779
00:34:51,329 --> 00:34:46,869
there but the Martians didn't disappear

780
00:34:55,710 --> 00:34:51,339
into the caves to keep going we probably

781
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:55,720
we I am certain that there are colonies

782
00:35:01,170 --> 00:34:58,450
in like cool caves and geothermal hot

783
00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:01,180
springs and stuff where Martian life is

784
00:35:08,010 --> 00:35:04,630
still going just fine but it's only a

785
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:08,020
shadow of the former biosphere it's it's

786
00:35:14,130 --> 00:35:12,130
a few surviving bugs than held on that's

787
00:35:16,620 --> 00:35:14,140
you know Mars is putting out a lot of

788
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:16,630
methane as it turns out and that's

789
00:35:24,570 --> 00:35:18,609
probably some of the surviving bugs

790
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:24,580
feasting off of the old plants they got

791
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:28,510
buried on Mars and they're making swamp

792
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:31,510
gas basically so basically here if there

793
00:35:37,140 --> 00:35:34,450
were intelligent Martians and the way we

794
00:35:39,420 --> 00:35:37,150
describe intelligence yes knowing this

795
00:35:41,609 --> 00:35:39,430
happened they would have left the planet

796
00:35:44,220 --> 00:35:41,619
long ago if they could or they just died

797
00:35:48,839 --> 00:35:44,230
out if they could have left they would

798
00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:48,849
have left in fact you can kind of make a

799
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:51,369
rough estimate of how how advanced life

800
00:35:55,410 --> 00:35:53,410
got on Mars because they apparently

801
00:35:58,589 --> 00:35:55,420
weren't advanced enough to stop the

802
00:35:59,079 --> 00:35:58,599
asteroid and the asteroid impact basin

803
00:36:00,849 --> 00:35:59,089
that

804
00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:00,859
apparently formed and just destroyed

805
00:36:07,450 --> 00:36:04,609
Mars climate system is called lyo T it's

806
00:36:09,969 --> 00:36:07,460
pronounced Leo but it's French so it's

807
00:36:16,660 --> 00:36:09,979
we pronounce it light but it's actually

808
00:36:17,799 --> 00:36:16,670
Leo pronounced Leo and that that was as

809
00:36:19,809 --> 00:36:17,809
big as the one that wiped out the

810
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:19,819
dinosaurs only it happened to a planet

811
00:36:26,219 --> 00:36:22,130
only half the size of Earth with past

812
00:36:29,859 --> 00:36:26,229
the sunlight and the if there were

813
00:36:32,469 --> 00:36:29,869
people on Mars like us they didn't have

814
00:36:34,180 --> 00:36:32,479
a space program that's because the

815
00:36:35,979 --> 00:36:34,190
Congress decided to cut the

816
00:36:39,130 --> 00:36:35,989
appropriations that's how was the reason

817
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John Brandenburg we're talking about the

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Martian mysteries and if there were some

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kind of intelligence on Mars they didn't

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advance enough to get off planet when

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the catastrophe the Cataclysm occurred

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our space program is actually enhanced

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the human chances of surviving for the

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next thousand years because we have

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enough technology space technology now

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in the enough telescope technology and

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quite frankly enough nuclear weapons

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technology if we need it to destroy or

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deflect and ask a large asteroid that

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would come into this planet to to

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destroy it so like the movie Armageddon

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with Bruce Willis absolutely the oil

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crew to some kind of asteroid and

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probably destroy it

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I really like that movie except for the

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science you know what can you expect

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it's a giant timer movie when is Jerry

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Bruckheimer ever specialized in

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scientific accuracy

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[Laughter]

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Cindy Mary Julie Chen she made that she

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was a person running Big Brother for a

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while they got married apparently

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wired to go into a few things here if

959
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:49,130
we're gonna look at the things we see on

960
00:42:53,410 --> 00:42:51,680
Mars it may have indicated more life in

961
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the past the planet has undergone all

962
00:42:59,610 --> 00:42:55,910
these Cataclysm and everything what

963
00:43:01,660 --> 00:42:59,620
about the face on Mars is that

964
00:43:07,570 --> 00:43:01,670
represents any reality or could

965
00:43:13,390 --> 00:43:07,580
represent any I'm gonna be commenting

966
00:43:16,910 --> 00:43:13,400
further on that later basically we have

967
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:16,920
a lot of nice pictures of it now

968
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for something that's not supposed to be

969
00:43:23,790 --> 00:43:21,310
important NASA sure takes a lot of

970
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:23,800
pictures of it well you know they have

971
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to put your tax dollars to work but you

972
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said I'm gonna have more to say let's

973
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say it right now you know this is one of

974
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:33,520
the things that we kind of well we

975
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public we published our hypothesis sure

976
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:39,130
we published the hypothesis back it was

977
00:43:43,940 --> 00:43:41,290
myself Vince the Pedro and Greg Mullen

978
00:43:46,770 --> 00:43:43,950
are to the original researchers and we

979
00:43:50,430 --> 00:43:46,780
put together a hypothesis that Mars had

980
00:43:52,050 --> 00:43:50,440
been like Earth in the past and that

981
00:43:55,650 --> 00:43:52,060
like earth it had developed an

982
00:43:57,810 --> 00:43:55,660
indigenous intelligent species and who

983
00:44:00,480 --> 00:43:57,820
built large monuments like the pyramids

984
00:44:04,290 --> 00:44:00,490
and the Sphinx or the big stone heads in

985
00:44:08,850 --> 00:44:04,300
of the Olmecs and that that's what we're

986
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:08,860
seeing we found not only they had face

987
00:44:13,950 --> 00:44:11,770
and pyramid at Cydonia but other

988
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:13,960
structures look archeological and then

989
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:16,650
when there's another area called utopia

990
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:18,910
which has been given the fancy name

991
00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:22,870
Galactus chaos for a specific area and

992
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:26,230
we found what looks like another face on

993
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:28,510
Mars it looks very much like the first

994
00:44:34,350 --> 00:44:30,310
one there's only about 2/3 of the size

995
00:44:36,180 --> 00:44:34,360
in fact there are two faces and we

996
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:36,190
published all of that in a scientific

997
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:37,630
journal called a journal of scientific

998
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:40,570
exploration and we published it before

999
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:42,610
the Mars Observer was supposed to go up

1000
00:44:49,980 --> 00:44:46,090
and put this matter to rest one way or

1001
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:49,990
another and I stand by my hypothesis

1002
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:52,720
that Cydonia is the remnants of an

1003
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:55,690
indigenous into you know indigenous

1004
00:45:01,950 --> 00:44:57,850
civilization humanoid civilization on

1005
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:01,960
Mars and I stand by a hypothesis I

1006
00:45:07,110 --> 00:45:04,090
consider the new pictures have verified

1007
00:45:08,970 --> 00:45:07,120
it John oh if you're if what you're

1008
00:45:11,940 --> 00:45:08,980
describing in terms of a timeline is

1009
00:45:16,590 --> 00:45:11,950
correct then these features must have

1010
00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:16,600
been made 500 million years ago and

1011
00:45:21,780 --> 00:45:18,790
they've only been weathered to the

1012
00:45:24,180 --> 00:45:21,790
degree that we see now well Mars went

1013
00:45:26,220 --> 00:45:24,190
into a big deep freeze and lost most of

1014
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:26,230
its atmosphere most of its app most of

1015
00:45:32,740 --> 00:45:28,610
Mars atmosphere froze out

1016
00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:32,750
on the surface now that meant the rates

1017
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:37,190
of erosion on Mars dropped to only a

1018
00:45:45,130 --> 00:45:40,310
thousandth of Wow okay that makes sense

1019
00:45:47,710 --> 00:45:45,140
and yeah yeah so almost nowhere um very

1020
00:45:49,690 --> 00:45:47,720
there's no freeze-thaw cycle on earth

1021
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:49,700
which does a lot of the erosion on earth

1022
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:55,250
and you know the Sphinx is probably like

1023
00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:57,170
ten thousand years old if you believe

1024
00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:00,560
the work of shock it's about four

1025
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:01,730
thousand years old if you believe

1026
00:46:07,450 --> 00:46:05,570
mainstream archaeologists but it's been

1027
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:07,460
fairly well preserved though it's been

1028
00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:09,250
vandalized

1029
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:13,030
Napoleon shot it snows it snows off

1030
00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:17,090
right and he was jealous because it was

1031
00:46:24,910 --> 00:46:21,920
bigger bigger than his nose so it's

1032
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:24,920
possible to have and but also by the way

1033
00:46:29,250 --> 00:46:27,440
we predicted in the cydonia hypothesis

1034
00:46:32,050 --> 00:46:29,260
that we would see signs of erosion

1035
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:32,060
because you know it would look like an

1036
00:46:38,260 --> 00:46:34,250
eroded all archaeology on earth is

1037
00:46:39,970 --> 00:46:38,270
eroded by the weather it's and if it's

1038
00:46:43,060 --> 00:46:39,980
may not a really good rock like the

1039
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:43,070
Olmec heads in Central America were

1040
00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:46,910
buried in the jungle and they were made

1041
00:46:51,730 --> 00:46:49,910
of really tough assault while cantock so

1042
00:46:54,250 --> 00:46:51,740
they're actually out of date other some

1043
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:54,260
was there some of those what's that out

1044
00:47:00,070 --> 00:46:56,210
of Dave and carved basalt would know

1045
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:00,080
with no ah right it's it's a mystery and

1046
00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:04,240
in fact the features of the look African

1047
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:10,160
look like you know that there's some how

1048
00:47:17,010 --> 00:47:14,050
people from Africa came and settled in

1049
00:47:20,530 --> 00:47:17,020
Central America so and some of the

1050
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:20,540
there's about twenty olmec head some of

1051
00:47:24,310 --> 00:47:22,130
them look very much like the face on

1052
00:47:30,370 --> 00:47:24,320
Mars I mean in terms of the helmet

1053
00:47:35,170 --> 00:47:30,380
ornaments and everything so we published

1054
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:35,180
that hypothesis and as people have said

1055
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:36,890
them's my words and I'm sticking to them

1056
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:41,330
I I still believe this Ionian hypothesis

1057
00:47:44,799 --> 00:47:41,930
is

1058
00:47:47,230 --> 00:47:44,809
valid and I believe the new data tends

1059
00:47:48,579 --> 00:47:47,240
to support it rather than refute it you

1060
00:47:51,339 --> 00:47:48,589
have to think about the impact of

1061
00:47:53,470 --> 00:47:51,349
science it's one thing to say ET is here

1062
00:47:56,349 --> 00:47:53,480
and close and personal today

1063
00:47:58,780 --> 00:47:56,359
yeah but to say ET may have been there

1064
00:48:01,180 --> 00:47:58,790
they may have been intelligent species

1065
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:01,190
on Mars ten thousand a hundred thousand

1066
00:48:05,380 --> 00:48:03,440
a million years ago that shouldn't be

1067
00:48:09,370 --> 00:48:05,390
such a big stretch because it doesn't

1068
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:09,380
overturn no it doesn't arm as usual

1069
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:12,319
things are kind of complicated because

1070
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:15,200
let's just hypothetically say that we're

1071
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:17,450
not alone in the universe and they're

1072
00:48:23,049 --> 00:48:19,910
living ETS out there with spaceships

1073
00:48:25,089 --> 00:48:23,059
it's kind of a shape of saucers that bug

1074
00:48:26,430 --> 00:48:25,099
around here and the government knows

1075
00:48:29,710 --> 00:48:26,440
that let's just say hypothetically

1076
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:29,720
there's a government cover-up of that

1077
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:32,450
knowledge and by the other doctor John

1078
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:35,839
last week dr. John Alexander who said

1079
00:48:41,020 --> 00:48:38,569
precisely the reverse as someone who has

1080
00:48:42,819 --> 00:48:41,030
been involved in government work and in

1081
00:48:48,910 --> 00:48:42,829
the military he said there is no

1082
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:48,920
conspiracy I can categorically say there

1083
00:48:56,530 --> 00:48:55,280
is no cover-up well that's interesting

1084
00:48:58,180 --> 00:48:56,540
doesn't sound like you agree that's

1085
00:48:59,680 --> 00:48:58,190
interesting that they did to hear that

1086
00:49:04,180 --> 00:48:59,690
he would say that after working in the

1087
00:49:06,220 --> 00:49:04,190
government all these years and I wrote a

1088
00:49:08,890 --> 00:49:06,230
very good novel about this called

1089
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,900
morning star pass to collapse the UFO

1090
00:49:12,099 --> 00:49:10,400
cover of course I didn't write it was

1091
00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:12,109
written by this guy no real well named

1092
00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:16,790
Victor nor guard and in the in the novel

1093
00:49:25,780 --> 00:49:21,049
the whole UFO cover-up is explored and

1094
00:49:32,349 --> 00:49:25,790
then finally collapses and because the

1095
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:32,359
two women newscasters what force on

1096
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:33,650
earth would be powerful enough to

1097
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:43,040
overthrow the UFO cover-up well so

1098
00:49:47,770 --> 00:49:45,920
basically it's not the scientists the

1099
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:47,780
male scientists with the beautiful

1100
00:49:55,250 --> 00:49:50,480
assistant we don't do that anymore

1101
00:49:58,190 --> 00:49:55,260
oh no no no these are two you know

1102
00:50:01,160 --> 00:49:58,200
there's a new character in in fiction

1103
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:01,170
and in real life and that's called the

1104
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:07,050
female hero and I have a male hero but I

1105
00:50:12,860 --> 00:50:09,720
also have female heroes and they're kind

1106
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:12,870
of harken back to imagine Russian women

1107
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:14,760
fighting in the pardon read partisans in

1108
00:50:23,060 --> 00:50:17,250
the woods against the Germans you know

1109
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:23,070
carrying those a big round clip was

1110
00:50:30,170 --> 00:50:25,200
before the ak-47 and was that big round

1111
00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:30,180
clip thing the perish off and knowing if

1112
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:31,830
they're captured they'll be tortured to

1113
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:34,890
death and doesn't bother many it doesn't

1114
00:50:39,470 --> 00:50:36,570
bother them at all that's a real

1115
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:39,480
motivation what good it's a real

1116
00:50:45,380 --> 00:50:41,610
motivation to be pretty bad badass like

1117
00:50:47,690 --> 00:50:45,390
this oh yeah so they yeah there are

1118
00:50:49,610 --> 00:50:47,700
women who have fought in wars just as

1119
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:49,620
heroically as any men especially modern

1120
00:50:57,590 --> 00:50:53,400
war Amazon's yeah that modern Amazon's

1121
00:50:59,000 --> 00:50:57,600
and yeah the Greeks new women could

1122
00:51:01,040 --> 00:50:59,010
fight especially if you give them bows

1123
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:01,050
and the Amazons were specialists

1124
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:04,170
imposing their coach death of the

1125
00:51:11,330 --> 00:51:09,510
distance scene of the jungle Xena queen

1126
00:51:13,250 --> 00:51:11,340
of the jungle absolutely one of my

1127
00:51:18,860 --> 00:51:13,260
favorite shows for a while it was

1128
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:18,870
Latonya Alexander star was Lucy Lawless

1129
00:51:29,450 --> 00:51:26,490
oh yeah okay Lucy Lawless yes I'm a big

1130
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:29,460
fan of Lucy Lawless and we also saw her

1131
00:51:34,190 --> 00:51:31,710
on Battlestar Galactica she makes guest

1132
00:51:38,990 --> 00:51:34,200
appearances she does Broadway shows very

1133
00:51:41,450 --> 00:51:39,000
talented we're talking to the very the

1134
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:41,460
co-host is Chris O'Brien I'm gene

1135
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:49,599
[Music]

1136
00:51:54,650 --> 00:51:52,410
hi Ted Anderson announcing a great way

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a private bank having a led back at

1152
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interest

1153
00:52:31,099 --> 00:52:29,460
forcing taxes to surfaced at this

1154
00:52:32,749 --> 00:52:31,109
capitalism what was Jefferson correct

1155
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:32,759
when stating a central bank issuing the

1156
00:52:35,509 --> 00:52:34,410
public currency is a greater menace to

1157
00:52:37,279 --> 00:52:35,519
the liberties of the people than a

1158
00:52:38,420 --> 00:52:37,289
standing army Ted Anderson I'm placing a

1159
00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:38,430
free silver dollar in a book that

1160
00:52:43,700 --> 00:52:40,470
explains our monetary system call for

1161
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your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time to

1162
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understand the system call 866 to 237

1163
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that's 800 686 to 237 welcome back to

1164
00:53:00,890 --> 00:52:57,599
the pair cast the gold standard of

1165
00:53:06,550 --> 00:53:00,900
paranormal radio and now here's gene

1166
00:53:12,620 --> 00:53:09,440
return now the second hour of the show

1167
00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:12,630
with dr. John Brandenburg the co-host is

1168
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:15,870
Chris O'Brien I'm gene Steinberg you're

1169
00:53:22,070 --> 00:53:17,810
in the para cast we're talking about

1170
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:22,080
John's book about Mars I mean what else

1171
00:53:26,540 --> 00:53:22,770
could there be

1172
00:53:29,810 --> 00:53:26,550
it's all about my death on Mars the new

1173
00:53:31,220 --> 00:53:29,820
Mars synthesis published this month from

1174
00:53:34,850 --> 00:53:31,230
our friends at Adventures unlimited

1175
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:34,860
press as a matter of fact and lots of

1176
00:53:39,170 --> 00:53:37,290
stuff to cover in this book and lots of

1177
00:53:41,780 --> 00:53:39,180
well mysteries of Mars they were trying

1178
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:41,790
to explore what pray tell I'm gonna just

1179
00:53:47,180 --> 00:53:43,920
drop this in the middle of this what is

1180
00:53:47,860 --> 00:53:47,190
like the Crystal Palace of Mars what's

1181
00:53:53,060 --> 00:53:47,870
that all about

1182
00:53:56,690 --> 00:53:53,070
the Crystal Palace was a greenhouse like

1183
00:54:00,080 --> 00:53:56,700
structure built by during the Victorian

1184
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:00,090
era for the first World's Fair and it

1185
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:01,650
was built by a guy who designed

1186
00:54:06,980 --> 00:54:03,810
greenhouses and it basically was the

1187
00:54:09,860 --> 00:54:06,990
classic it sort of made everybody build

1188
00:54:14,510 --> 00:54:09,870
classic greenhouses iron framework or

1189
00:54:17,150 --> 00:54:14,520
iron steel framework with glass and it

1190
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:17,160
was a beautiful is a stunning piece of

1191
00:54:20,420 --> 00:54:18,930
new are canola and ever built anything

1192
00:54:22,820 --> 00:54:20,430
like this for one thing was just

1193
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:22,830
enormous and it was the site of the

1194
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:25,650
first World's Fair and it was so popular

1195
00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:28,110
that when the world this Great

1196
00:54:36,050 --> 00:54:33,000
Exhibition oculina Victoria to celebrate

1197
00:54:38,030 --> 00:54:36,060
her reign was over they just simply

1198
00:54:41,390 --> 00:54:38,040
dismantled it and moved it someplace

1199
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:41,400
else so they could keep it and it still

1200
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:43,290
stayed around for another 70 years so

1201
00:54:47,450 --> 00:54:44,480
it's destroyed by the fire but they

1202
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:47,460
compete the Crystal Palace was the

1203
00:54:53,570 --> 00:54:50,130
original giant greenhouse when I say

1204
00:54:55,460 --> 00:54:53,580
there was a I say in the book there

1205
00:54:58,070 --> 00:54:55,470
wasn't just a greenhouse on Mars like

1206
00:55:01,760 --> 00:54:58,080
there is on Venus Venus has had a

1207
00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:01,770
greenhouse co2 greenhouse since it's day

1208
00:55:07,340 --> 00:55:05,250
one there wasn't just a greenhouse on

1209
00:55:12,580 --> 00:55:07,350
Mars there was a Crystal Palace this

1210
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:12,590
thing you know was a clear atmosphere

1211
00:55:17,630 --> 00:55:16,410
probably not only had carbon dioxide in

1212
00:55:21,380 --> 00:55:17,640
it but also methane

1213
00:55:23,329 --> 00:55:21,390
to help stabilize it and methane is a

1214
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:23,339
much more powerful greenhouse gas than

1215
00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:26,130
co2 is by the way that's why they burn

1216
00:55:30,349 --> 00:55:28,920
it off at trash dumps because the

1217
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:30,359
methane if methane gets up in the air

1218
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:32,130
it'll actually contribute to greenhouse

1219
00:55:40,220 --> 00:55:35,609
warming much more than the co2 so but

1220
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:40,230
you can imagine a planet like Earth only

1221
00:55:46,660 --> 00:55:42,240
smaller kind of a petite version of

1222
00:55:50,059 --> 00:55:46,670
earth full of life with a very diverse

1223
00:55:53,150 --> 00:55:50,069
evolved biosphere a crystal clear

1224
00:55:55,849 --> 00:55:53,160
atmosphere most of the time composed

1225
00:55:58,279 --> 00:55:55,859
mostly of carbon dioxide with nitrogen

1226
00:56:01,880 --> 00:55:58,289
than a big component of oxygen so it had

1227
00:56:06,140 --> 00:56:01,890
an ozone layer it had oxygen breathing

1228
00:56:08,750 --> 00:56:06,150
animals and advanced life it had an

1229
00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:08,760
ocean full of kind of carbonated water

1230
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:11,609
but full of fish and all sorts of things

1231
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:13,680
it would have been just beautiful it

1232
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:16,079
would have been spectacular I would

1233
00:56:21,259 --> 00:56:18,960
dream of going swimming and you know

1234
00:56:22,970 --> 00:56:21,269
walking along the beach on Mars and then

1235
00:56:25,249 --> 00:56:22,980
going for a dip in the ocean and

1236
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:25,259
swimming with the fish in the ocean we

1237
00:56:31,450 --> 00:56:28,049
have the salt water on Mars we can use

1238
00:56:34,730 --> 00:56:31,460
epson salts and everything absolutely

1239
00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:34,740
imagine a planet like Earth but a little

1240
00:56:40,059 --> 00:56:38,609
weird for one thing everybody's blood is

1241
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:40,069
carbonated water

1242
00:56:44,990 --> 00:56:42,930
I got slightly acid blood like the

1243
00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:45,000
aliens and the aliens only this was just

1244
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:49,440
carbonated while carbonic acid and you

1245
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:52,559
know that's more salt so much that's

1246
00:56:59,210 --> 00:56:56,640
right and Mars was like earth only

1247
00:57:01,640 --> 00:56:59,220
probably more wonderful in its own way

1248
00:57:03,559 --> 00:57:01,650
and that's possible Martian has made up

1249
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:03,569
a diet coke is that what you're telling

1250
00:57:09,950 --> 00:57:05,970
me absolutely the ocean of Mars made of

1251
00:57:15,430 --> 00:57:09,960
Diet Coke why champagne diet dr. pepper

1252
00:57:19,490 --> 00:57:15,440
okay diet dr. pepper Mars was a

1253
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:19,500
remarkable piece of work it was a it

1254
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:20,970
wasn't just a greenhouse it was a

1255
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:23,250
Crystal Palace and it had everything

1256
00:57:28,849 --> 00:57:26,730
there could imagine everything like the

1257
00:57:30,660 --> 00:57:28,859
John Carter of Mars novel of Dejah

1258
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:30,670
Thoris and

1259
00:57:34,860 --> 00:57:33,850
and the Princess of Mars etc etc okay of

1260
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:34,870
course we didn't have all those

1261
00:57:41,370 --> 00:57:36,880
creatures with eight or twelve arms and

1262
00:57:43,590 --> 00:57:41,380
all that stuff well you know it was a

1263
00:57:46,310 --> 00:57:43,600
different chance for nature to develop a

1264
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:46,320
different way of doing things who knows

1265
00:57:51,780 --> 00:57:49,930
this is okay John's very silly question

1266
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:51,790
yeah do you think that when he was

1267
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:54,570
putting this book together this is what

1268
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:58,210
1910 a princess of Mars before he wrote

1269
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:00,880
Tarzan of the Apes Edgar I see arrows

1270
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:03,490
consulted all this folklore about what

1271
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:06,250
Mars might be to confabulate this story

1272
00:58:14,070 --> 00:58:09,850
oh well he read the work of law okay

1273
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:14,080
Lowell had basically suggest Lowell

1274
00:58:19,290 --> 00:58:16,720
didn't understand about greenhouse gases

1275
00:58:24,290 --> 00:58:19,300
very well but even though that idea was

1276
00:58:26,670 --> 00:58:24,300
around also Lowell basically just

1277
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:26,680
thought that he thought the atmosphere

1278
00:58:31,290 --> 00:58:28,960
would trap heat and he just thought that

1279
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:31,300
Mars there was no reason that Mars

1280
00:58:37,350 --> 00:58:34,090
couldn't have liquid water and and and

1281
00:58:39,210 --> 00:58:37,360
he was seeing canals so he imagined that

1282
00:58:42,350 --> 00:58:39,220
Mars was in some kind of trouble

1283
00:58:45,660 --> 00:58:42,360
in dejah thoris if you read dejah thoris

1284
00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:45,670
edgar rice burroughs depicts a planet

1285
00:58:50,820 --> 00:58:48,910
that whose environment is kind of on the

1286
00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:50,830
edge of disaster and they're struggling

1287
00:58:55,650 --> 00:58:53,830
to preserve the environment on Mars to

1288
00:58:58,650 --> 00:58:55,660
preserve the oxygen atmosphere and

1289
00:59:01,320 --> 00:58:58,660
everything the deadly the bottoms of

1290
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:01,330
Mars is what he always talked about the

1291
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:03,280
Dead Sea but yeah that Mars was

1292
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:05,410
degrading that his oceans had dried up

1293
00:59:12,510 --> 00:59:10,510
and the the people the culture that

1294
00:59:14,460 --> 00:59:12,520
represented by dejah thoris she's a

1295
00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:14,470
princess in this woman culture and

1296
00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:17,710
they're struggling mightily to preserve

1297
00:59:23,820 --> 00:59:21,520
the atmosphere of Mars with big nuclear

1298
00:59:26,430 --> 00:59:23,830
power plants or they didn't have nuclear

1299
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:26,440
power they he came up with some kind of

1300
00:59:30,180 --> 00:59:27,970
cosmic energy or something that was

1301
00:59:31,830 --> 00:59:30,190
powering these plants I have a crazy

1302
00:59:35,070 --> 00:59:31,840
question I have a crazy question arose

1303
00:59:38,670 --> 00:59:35,080
here okay the biblical references to

1304
00:59:40,980 --> 00:59:38,680
global catastrophes is something that

1305
00:59:42,750 --> 00:59:40,990
could have happened on earth or can we

1306
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:42,760
put all that stuff as

1307
00:59:48,260 --> 00:59:44,170
thing that we remember from the

1308
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:48,270
civilization that existed on Mars oh

1309
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:51,490
it's very interesting you know we have a

1310
00:59:58,380 --> 00:59:54,970
apparently a very strong very vivid

1311
01:00:01,800 --> 00:59:58,390
memory you know kind of a racial memory

1312
01:00:04,860 --> 01:00:01,810
and you find this legend among just

1313
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:04,870
about every culture on earth has a flood

1314
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:08,890
legend and the basically an extinction

1315
01:00:14,430 --> 01:00:11,890
level event happening on the earth

1316
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:14,440
they're almost the entire human race in

1317
01:00:21,390 --> 01:00:17,050
the advanced life forms on earth were

1318
01:00:23,220 --> 01:00:21,400
wiped out and only someone who was

1319
01:00:28,980 --> 01:00:23,230
basically warned to prepare for this

1320
01:00:31,950 --> 01:00:28,990
with an ark survives with his family and

1321
01:00:35,580 --> 01:00:31,960
that I mean the Native Americans have it

1322
01:00:36,930 --> 01:00:35,590
the Polynesians have it of course all

1323
01:00:39,630 --> 01:00:36,940
the cultures in the Middle East had a

1324
01:00:43,350 --> 01:00:39,640
flood story and what the what the flood

1325
01:00:48,090 --> 01:00:43,360
is is you can kind of just say this is a

1326
01:00:51,150 --> 01:00:48,100
a catastrophe a global climatic

1327
01:00:53,820 --> 01:00:51,160
catastrophe on earth it is kind of

1328
01:00:57,180 --> 01:00:53,830
described as a big flood of water that

1329
01:01:00,090 --> 01:00:57,190
kills just about everything you know it

1330
01:01:05,550 --> 01:01:00,100
is it almost makes all advanced life on

1331
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:05,560
Earth extinct and yes so there's there's

1332
01:01:11,970 --> 01:01:08,290
been so the human race has seen

1333
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:11,980
something like this maybe it's carried

1334
01:01:18,660 --> 01:01:16,050
genetically from its past Mars heritage

1335
01:01:20,430 --> 01:01:18,670
maybe it's something that happened on

1336
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:20,440
earth that was a big asteroid or a big

1337
01:01:26,220 --> 01:01:24,250
comet imagine a swarm of big comets

1338
01:01:29,010 --> 01:01:26,230
striking the earth that are mostly water

1339
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:29,020
so suddenly you're having the equivalent

1340
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:32,050
of a water an ocean break up and explode

1341
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:34,510
in midair and for me

1342
01:01:42,810 --> 01:01:39,280
a flood experience but I'm only

1343
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:42,820
speculating I don't know what natural

1344
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:45,610
thing would cause a giant flood you know

1345
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:46,930
what we'll get into more of this in a

1346
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:49,090
moment let me remind you all over again

1347
01:01:52,829 --> 01:01:50,770
that there are several ways to get in

1348
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:52,839
touch with us if you have a comment

1349
01:01:57,479 --> 01:01:55,210
to a question about the power cast send

1350
01:02:00,900 --> 01:01:57,489
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1976 the gzn Radio Network providing the

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world with hard-hitting talk radio G

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and Great Auk radio starts here this is

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actually you're listening to the podcast

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the gold standard of countable radio we

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have Chris O'Brien our co-host who is

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trying to sound like he is a Martian

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okay chris is a Martian you know we know

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that the resistance is futile or as they

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say we have to kind of emphasize that in

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more detail

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resistance is futile futile that's a

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very Martian statement okay I mean these

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guys were the planet of war right and

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what's right pause oh oh yeah all the

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war in the world boy that really scared

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people because yeah HG Wells figured out

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that people on if if there was if there

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were canals on Mars and a civilization

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there they might not they might not like

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us much in fact one of the drivers for

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the invasion of Mar by Mars of Earth is

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they Envy us because we have a planet

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with it was the low alien idea that Mars

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was that was you know was declining that

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had formerly been much more fertile and

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covered with oceans and now it was kind

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of dying and the Martians were trying to

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find another third place fine nowadays

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John so for example in the movie

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Independence Day we have this

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civilization comes here they want our

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planet because they want our natural

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resources we have something they want we

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have for example the TV series which has

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been done twice and the eighties now

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01:08:57,940 --> 01:08:55,790
again where we have the lion lizards who

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01:09:00,310 --> 01:08:57,950
want to make with us because they have a

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problem with their genetic pool it's

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01:09:07,180 --> 01:09:03,109
messed up they gotta face it we're mr.

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01:09:09,010 --> 01:09:07,190
and mrs. Fixit on earth well I'm sure

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people would be willing to do that for a

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but they wouldn't have to come restore

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01:09:21,249 --> 01:09:18,440
you know John the UFO mystery has the

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01:09:23,919 --> 01:09:21,259
same meme which is that each he comes

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01:09:26,079 --> 01:09:23,929
here they want to mate with earth people

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01:09:28,149 --> 01:09:26,089
create a hybrid race because of some

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program that even goes back to biblical

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legends the same thing that we have all

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these advanced beings who want to mate

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with the people of Earth to do something

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01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:37,159
that's right the Nephilim in the bite

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01:09:41,260 --> 01:09:39,170
you know it's in the Bible that says the

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sons of God it doesn't go into any

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01:09:45,700 --> 01:09:44,389
detail of what they were but it does it

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01:09:47,859 --> 01:09:45,710
doesn't you can read between the lines

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01:09:49,959 --> 01:09:47,869
very easily the sons of God meaning

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people probably from the sky saw the

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daughters of men were very beautiful and

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01:10:01,600 --> 01:09:57,040
wanted to take them as wives and did so

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and a reality show yeah and so and it

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01:10:06,339 --> 01:10:04,340
says the the offspring of these unions

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were great men about who many legends

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are written and that is in the Bible and

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then of course that validates all these

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01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:13,940
reports like among the Greeks of Zeus

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constantly cruising around cruising

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01:10:23,589 --> 01:10:21,409
earth for young maidens and in their

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01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:23,599
offspring were great heroes about whom

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01:10:30,820 --> 01:10:26,770
great legends were written the constant

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01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:30,830
lusting after our gene pool on earth it

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01:10:35,140 --> 01:10:33,199
goes back to Galactica the of course is

1544
01:10:37,629 --> 01:10:35,150
the big spoiler of the TV series the

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01:10:39,970 --> 01:10:37,639
second generation or the reimagining of

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01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:39,980
Battlestar Galactica that 150,000 years

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01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:42,530
ago they come to earth they mate with us

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01:10:47,260 --> 01:10:44,690
and here we are so is this what we're

1549
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:47,270
lesson to do John that we're destined to

1550
01:10:53,859 --> 01:10:50,330
go to the stars and find ways to repair

1551
01:10:57,390 --> 01:10:53,869
our depleted gene pool with et captain

1552
01:11:04,030 --> 01:10:57,400
remember Captain Kirk was busy trying to

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01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:04,040
spread the human galaxy and he had a lot

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01:11:09,609 --> 01:11:07,520
of drilling willing et women to do it

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01:11:11,620 --> 01:11:09,619
too and well one of the you know

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01:11:13,570 --> 01:11:11,630
interesting things they explored in Star

1557
01:11:16,030 --> 01:11:13,580
Trek partly because their makeup budget

1558
01:11:18,959 --> 01:11:16,040
was so low is that they had a lot of the

1559
01:11:20,590 --> 01:11:18,969
of the aliens basically look like us and

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01:11:24,870 --> 01:11:20,600
with a blue

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01:11:27,970 --> 01:11:24,880
scanner so blue blue or green skin or

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01:11:30,220 --> 01:11:27,980
just just wearing different clothes and

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01:11:32,620 --> 01:11:30,230
it was quite effective because you

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:32,630
respond to human beings as intelligent

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01:11:40,900 --> 01:11:36,290
and dangerous to great things like that

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01:11:43,450 --> 01:11:40,910
for any villain and the fact that we we

1567
01:11:46,750 --> 01:11:43,460
imagined all this stuff about Mars and

1568
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:46,760
now by the way the the other big boot

1569
01:11:50,650 --> 01:11:48,530
that's going to that's falling on Mars

1570
01:11:54,090 --> 01:11:50,660
which I discuss in the book is the fact

1571
01:11:56,650 --> 01:11:54,100
it was apparently a nuclear catastrophe

1572
01:11:59,080 --> 01:11:56,660
it wasn't enough that the climate

1573
01:12:02,260 --> 01:11:59,090
collapsed I knew what looks like an

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01:12:05,470 --> 01:12:02,270
asteroid impact afterwards there was a

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01:12:07,980 --> 01:12:05,480
planetary nuclear catastrophe a giant

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01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:07,990
nuclear explosion a million Megaton

1577
01:12:15,450 --> 01:12:11,440
hydrogen bomb equivalent going off and

1578
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:15,460
but not artificial was this nuclear

1579
01:12:21,090 --> 01:12:18,320
Cataclysm artificial or something from a

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01:12:24,490 --> 01:12:21,100
natural force of one source or another

1581
01:12:27,010 --> 01:12:24,500
well in order to get my paper into the

1582
01:12:30,970 --> 01:12:27,020
conference I proposed it was met it was

1583
01:12:33,850 --> 01:12:30,980
natural and uh in Africa there were

1584
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:33,860
natural nuclear reactors this very rich

1585
01:12:41,260 --> 01:12:37,520
uranium deposit became the site of

1586
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:41,270
little kind of nuclear reactors because

1587
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:43,130
of groundwater getting mixed with the

1588
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:45,290
uranium so it would form come a reactor

1589
01:12:50,020 --> 01:12:46,610
core of a water-cooled

1590
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:50,030
nuclear reactor and so that happened on

1591
01:12:55,450 --> 01:12:52,370
earth and several scientists commented

1592
01:12:57,190 --> 01:12:55,460
to me well if it happened on earth it

1593
01:12:59,740 --> 01:12:57,200
could have has to have been able to

1594
01:13:02,590 --> 01:12:59,750
happen on Mars only this one with much

1595
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:02,600
would have had to been much larger the

1596
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:05,090
problem by the way with that hypothesis

1597
01:13:10,780 --> 01:13:07,760
and I discussed that at the meeting was

1598
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:10,790
that it would have left a big crater I'm

1599
01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:13,310
it's very hard for me to imagine such an

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01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:16,880
enormous explosion from inside the the

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01:13:23,620 --> 01:13:20,960
Martian surface and not creating a big

1602
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:23,630
crater that we can see now but people

1603
01:13:27,700 --> 01:13:25,250
just shrugged and said well maybe it

1604
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:27,710
would have filled in or something what

1605
01:13:32,020 --> 01:13:30,170
impressed people by the way was the fact

1606
01:13:33,970 --> 01:13:32,030
that the isotopes in the Martian

1607
01:13:34,300 --> 01:13:33,980
atmosphere look like the results of a

1608
01:13:36,820 --> 01:13:34,310
new

1609
01:13:38,980 --> 01:13:36,830
explosion because we have exam an

1610
01:13:41,620 --> 01:13:38,990
example on earth we've actually altered

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01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:41,630
our own atmosphere by the open air

1612
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:43,760
nuclear testing when we did it's got a

1613
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:45,410
lot of xenon 129

1614
01:13:51,940 --> 01:13:48,410
okay this nuclear catastrophe we judge

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01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:51,950
by the half-life of the isotopes how

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01:13:58,990 --> 01:13:53,510
long ago did on Mars

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01:14:02,830 --> 01:13:59,000
well it the the the key we have to date

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01:14:06,580 --> 01:14:02,840
this thing to this event in time is a

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01:14:08,500 --> 01:14:06,590
meteorite called ETA 7901 and it's a

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01:14:11,860 --> 01:14:08,510
hundred and eighty million years ago and

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01:14:15,070 --> 01:14:11,870
it's a lava sandwich it's one floor lab

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01:14:16,930 --> 01:14:15,080
up you know like from a volcano and then

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01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:16,940
like a few days later there was another

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01:14:22,690 --> 01:14:20,090
flow of lava so there's two slightly

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01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:22,700
different lavis that form kind of this

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01:14:28,690 --> 01:14:25,130
layered thing that then got blown off of

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01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:28,700
Mars into space and what's interesting

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01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:31,250
is water got in between the two

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01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:31,850
sandwiches

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01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:33,410
that's it got in the middle of the

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01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:39,170
sandwich and formed like gypsum sulfate

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01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:43,490
and sulfate and carbonate in there and

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01:14:46,420 --> 01:14:45,770
then bugs apparently started growing in

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01:14:48,850 --> 01:14:46,430
there too

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01:14:51,850 --> 01:14:48,860
that's they found life signs in the EPA

1636
01:14:53,620 --> 01:14:51,860
7901 but it's only 180 million years ago

1637
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:53,630
what's interesting part of the lab a

1638
01:14:59,380 --> 01:14:55,730
sandwich which they call lithology

1639
01:15:04,450 --> 01:14:59,390
a rock type a has signs of radiation

1640
01:15:06,250 --> 01:15:04,460
damage but a rock type b the other half

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01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:06,260
of the sandwich doesn't show nearly is

1642
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:08,570
same amount of radiation damage so it's

1643
01:15:16,090 --> 01:15:12,110
almost as if this big nuclear

1644
01:15:18,910 --> 01:15:16,100
catastrophe was going on when when lava

1645
01:15:21,220 --> 01:15:18,920
was flowing and then was lessened when

1646
01:15:25,570 --> 01:15:21,230
the other lava was flowing so as a

1647
01:15:28,450 --> 01:15:25,580
result it kind of or in fact it may it's

1648
01:15:33,610 --> 01:15:28,460
it's it may have actually been lava

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01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:33,620
triggered by this big explosion now john

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Brandon yes we're talking with dr.

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[Music]

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01:20:18,049 --> 01:20:15,409
we're having a jolly time with dr. John

1760
01:20:20,569 --> 01:20:18,059
Brandenburg on the para Cass with gene

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01:20:23,719 --> 01:20:20,579
Steinberg and Chris O'Brien exploring

1762
01:20:25,969 --> 01:20:23,729
the incredible mysteries of Mars and all

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01:20:28,370 --> 01:20:25,979
the ramifications thereof Chris pick up

1764
01:20:30,709 --> 01:20:28,380
please you presented this paper and in

1765
01:20:33,319 --> 01:20:30,719
order to get it in you had to hint

1766
01:20:35,500 --> 01:20:33,329
around that you felt that it was a that

1767
01:20:38,629 --> 01:20:35,510
it was a naturally occurring under

1768
01:20:41,659 --> 01:20:38,639
underground yeah have been triggered but

1769
01:20:44,299 --> 01:20:41,669
in your book you mentioned that because

1770
01:20:47,239 --> 01:20:44,309
of the the very curious fact that there

1771
01:20:49,129 --> 01:20:47,249
is no real crater that yeah how would a

1772
01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:49,139
suit be formed that what you're

1773
01:20:53,929 --> 01:20:51,209
considering is a possibility is some

1774
01:20:57,140 --> 01:20:53,939
sort of airburst event which opens up a

1775
01:21:00,439 --> 01:20:57,150
whole Pandora's box of hypotheticals so

1776
01:21:02,540 --> 01:21:00,449
once you've got it you're very quickly

1777
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:02,550
in a science fiction scenario when you

1778
01:21:07,879 --> 01:21:05,010
start talking about airburst there was a

1779
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:07,889
large object that fell in Siberia and

1780
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:11,489
blew up in midair called it was place

1781
01:21:17,689 --> 01:21:15,090
called Tunguska and it flattened like

1782
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:17,699
about a million miles of square miles of

1783
01:21:23,149 --> 01:21:20,489
Siberian forest and it looked like a

1784
01:21:24,739 --> 01:21:23,159
hydrogen bomb going off and that was in

1785
01:21:29,359 --> 01:21:24,749
midair it didn't make a crater

1786
01:21:31,580 --> 01:21:29,369
now however there's no evidence that

1787
01:21:33,649 --> 01:21:31,590
that thing was nukid her this thing was

1788
01:21:38,299 --> 01:21:33,659
nuclear but it looks like it blew up in

1789
01:21:40,609 --> 01:21:38,309
midair like Tunguska so it's very

1790
01:21:42,949 --> 01:21:40,619
difficult to explain that was any kind

1791
01:21:46,069 --> 01:21:42,959
of natural process that we've ever seen

1792
01:21:48,669 --> 01:21:46,079
well did you bring this up the only the

1793
01:21:51,459 --> 01:21:48,679
only thing we've seen like that is a

1794
01:21:54,529 --> 01:21:51,469
mid-air explosion of a nuclear weapon

1795
01:21:56,850 --> 01:21:54,539
did you bring it up did you did you kind

1796
01:22:00,970 --> 01:21:56,860
of you know

1797
01:22:04,300 --> 01:22:00,980
I'm I'm trying to hold an audience

1798
01:22:07,060 --> 01:22:04,310
remember I'm this was this was presented

1799
01:22:09,460 --> 01:22:07,070
as a poster paper which is like putting

1800
01:22:10,900 --> 01:22:09,470
up a bunch of view graphs on a bulletin

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01:22:12,370 --> 01:22:10,910
board instead of presenting them to an

1802
01:22:15,660 --> 01:22:12,380
audience they can present they can

1803
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:15,670
accommodate a lot more papers at once

1804
01:22:19,570 --> 01:22:18,170
rather than doing them serially it was

1805
01:22:21,190 --> 01:22:19,580
like everybody kind of wanders it's

1806
01:22:24,580 --> 01:22:21,200
almost like Halloween night you've got

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01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:24,590
trick-or-treaters coming to your house

1808
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:27,170
and you're handing out our information

1809
01:22:35,950 --> 01:22:31,370
and it's no 18 right it's like dating

1810
01:22:38,770 --> 01:22:35,960
and people are cruising by and one of

1811
01:22:40,410 --> 01:22:38,780
the problems I found was that I was

1812
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:40,420
there there were a thousand different

1813
01:22:47,650 --> 01:22:43,040
papers being presented all at once and

1814
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:47,660
these big enormous hall and I only I

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01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:50,560
didn't get a lot of traffic because

1816
01:22:53,980 --> 01:22:52,370
because there were so many other

1817
01:22:55,660 --> 01:22:53,990
interesting papers with much fancier

1818
01:22:59,230 --> 01:22:55,670
graphics than mine they have big

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01:23:01,300 --> 01:22:59,240
universities I'll tell you what you have

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01:23:03,610 --> 01:23:01,310
to do John is get yourself a copy of

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keynote for the Mac you'll make great

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01:23:07,570 --> 01:23:05,840
presentations with super transitions but

1823
01:23:09,610 --> 01:23:07,580
seriously speaking so you're basically

1824
01:23:11,950 --> 01:23:09,620
saying that you kind of sanitize this

1825
01:23:14,380 --> 01:23:11,960
presentation for the sake of he Elias

1826
01:23:16,570 --> 01:23:14,390
you didn't want any paid to kind of look

1827
01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:16,580
like and say well you're like the crazy

1828
01:23:20,410 --> 01:23:19,040
guy in the movie Stargate who was

1829
01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:20,420
talking about the Stargate

1830
01:23:26,260 --> 01:23:23,450
and dr. dad well she was the character

1831
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:26,270
and he's being laughed out of the room

1832
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:28,730
because of the fact that he's coming up

1833
01:23:32,530 --> 01:23:30,650
with this outlandish idea so you didn't

1834
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:32,540
want to sound outlandish you wanted to

1835
01:23:38,890 --> 01:23:37,250
sell no and you don't want to talk

1836
01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:38,900
science fiction scenarios at a

1837
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:41,450
conference like that so basically I did

1838
01:23:47,470 --> 01:23:44,210
point out however and people's got eyes

1839
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:47,480
got large when I see most of these Mars

1840
01:23:52,900 --> 01:23:49,850
scientists are not familiar with nuclear

1841
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:52,910
weapons effects like I am because of I'm

1842
01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:55,250
a plasma physicist not a geologist I

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01:24:00,730 --> 01:23:57,890
know all about nuclear weapons it was

1844
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:00,740
sort of up we we got kind of a little

1845
01:24:03,970 --> 01:24:02,210
bit of a short course in it when the

1846
01:24:06,010 --> 01:24:03,980
graduate school I went to which was at

1847
01:24:07,419 --> 01:24:06,020
Lawrence Livermore National Lab it's

1848
01:24:09,550 --> 01:24:07,429
called Teller Tech

1849
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:09,560
and also I work for Aerospace

1850
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:12,170
Corporation where we we had to

1851
01:24:17,169 --> 01:24:14,960
understand all the stuff to analyze

1852
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:17,179
things like the Pakistani nuclear tests

1853
01:24:22,750 --> 01:24:21,050
etc so what you do is you you know what

1854
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:22,760
the signatures of a nuclear weapon and

1855
01:24:29,410 --> 01:24:25,760
they should look like and most of these

1856
01:24:32,140 --> 01:24:29,420
geologists don't so the same set of data

1857
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:32,150
you show to a geologist Martian

1858
01:24:36,550 --> 01:24:34,489
geologist he he says well that's

1859
01:24:40,300 --> 01:24:36,560
interesting and mysterious you show it

1860
01:24:41,860 --> 01:24:40,310
to somebody who's an expert in nuclear

1861
01:24:43,990 --> 01:24:41,870
weapons now the Pentagon and he

1862
01:24:46,090 --> 01:24:44,000
basically his eyes get big and he says

1863
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:46,100
oh my god so I basically pointed out

1864
01:24:51,970 --> 01:24:49,489
that the xenon 129 as a result of big

1865
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:51,980
nuclear explosions on earth and that got

1866
01:24:57,580 --> 01:24:54,320
basically people's eyes would get big

1867
01:25:01,540 --> 01:24:57,590
and they'd say is that so I hadn't known

1868
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:01,550
that and then they basically would just

1869
01:25:05,410 --> 01:25:03,050
be really quiet while I went through the

1870
01:25:08,169 --> 01:25:05,420
rest of the paper and I did point out

1871
01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:08,179
though that there was no crater and that

1872
01:25:12,780 --> 01:25:09,679
this was a big problem with this

1873
01:25:17,140 --> 01:25:12,790
hypothesis and I in fact I mentioned

1874
01:25:19,450 --> 01:25:17,150
Tunguska as a airburst of something but

1875
01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:19,460
it wasn't nuke unfortunately well

1876
01:25:23,919 --> 01:25:21,440
fortunately there's no evidence that

1877
01:25:26,229 --> 01:25:23,929
Tunguska left any radioactive fallout so

1878
01:25:28,540 --> 01:25:26,239
it apparently was just a big calm it was

1879
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apparently a chunk of a comet that came

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in and exploded in midair rather than

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hitting the earth and in fact it

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probably caused more devastation because

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it exploded in midair than if it hit the

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actually hit the earth it probably would

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01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:42,830
have made a big crater but it would have

1886
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been more concentrated damage in Siberia

1887
01:25:54,780 --> 01:25:48,620
instead it leveled million a million

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01:25:56,740 --> 01:25:54,790
square miles of forest I guess and so

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01:26:01,919 --> 01:25:56,750
when you're at a conference like this

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you basically you run through the paper

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to whoever stops and is really

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01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:10,460
interested and and I did that and the

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01:26:14,260 --> 01:26:12,530
people who were interested the paper

1894
01:26:17,590 --> 01:26:14,270
were quite amazed that this looked like

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01:26:20,410 --> 01:26:17,600
nuclear weapons residue and they hadn't

1896
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:20,420
thought of it that way but of course it

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01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:20,930
very

1898
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wickets in the kind of Mars has such a

1899
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:26,540
legacy of science fiction that people

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01:26:31,510 --> 01:26:29,090
have an aversion to anything that looks

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01:26:35,050 --> 01:26:31,520
science fictiony on Mars he especially

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01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:35,060
you know either geologists they like

1903
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:38,930
talk about rocks you know in fact in

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01:26:42,340 --> 01:26:40,250
fact if you show them a picture of the

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01:26:45,820 --> 01:26:42,350
face on Mars they'll say wonder what

1906
01:26:47,500 --> 01:26:45,830
kind of rock has made out of now

1907
01:26:49,990 --> 01:26:47,510
completely ignore the fact that look

1908
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like a face or Olmec head they'll

1909
01:26:56,350 --> 01:26:52,220
actually say that looks like some kind

1910
01:26:59,560 --> 01:26:56,360
of lava its I wonder what the lab of

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01:27:02,920 --> 01:26:59,570
chemistry is on that thing and so you

1912
01:27:04,710 --> 01:27:02,930
must understand that most that science

1913
01:27:08,440 --> 01:27:04,720
tends to be extremely conservative

1914
01:27:10,750 --> 01:27:08,450
especially Mars science and the reason

1915
01:27:13,390 --> 01:27:10,760
is is therefore teetering right on the

1916
01:27:15,370 --> 01:27:13,400
edge of a cliff of finding out that

1917
01:27:17,410 --> 01:27:15,380
we're not the center of the universe

1918
01:27:19,420 --> 01:27:17,420
biologically anymore and we're gonna

1919
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:19,430
find it out on Mars we're finding it out

1920
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:24,050
now and by the way if we find out that

1921
01:27:29,140 --> 01:27:26,210
Mars was another Alderaan

1922
01:27:31,390 --> 01:27:29,150
like in Star Wars you can imagine

1923
01:27:33,700 --> 01:27:31,400
governor Tarkin with the Death Star only

1924
01:27:36,250 --> 01:27:33,710
instead of you know launching a giant

1925
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:36,260
particle beam weapon that Mars he used a

1926
01:27:43,570 --> 01:27:38,810
big hydrogen bomb as big as a Empire

1927
01:27:45,550 --> 01:27:43,580
State Building and you know that's what

1928
01:27:49,330 --> 01:27:45,560
we're talking we're talking a

1929
01:27:50,830 --> 01:27:49,340
convergence of fact versus fiction but

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01:27:55,590 --> 01:27:50,840
ok well let me let me give you an

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01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:55,600
example in 1958 Kirby comics published a

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a comic book that I probably read when I

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was a kid and these are the guys who did

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01:28:08,590 --> 01:28:05,120
this Fantastic Four later same artists

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01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:08,600
and it's called the face on Mars and you

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01:28:14,140 --> 01:28:10,400
can see it on Richard Hoagland site of

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01:28:17,110 --> 01:28:14,150
you know enterprise mission and on the

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01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:17,120
net and it's the face on Mars it's a big

1939
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:19,970
car face and the astronauts land there

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01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:24,010
it was published in 1958 and the

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astronauts go into the face to see

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01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:30,350
what's inside and it's a record of the

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01:28:34,689 --> 01:28:32,210
last days of Mars the last days of Mars

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01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:34,699
was us Martians were just

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01:28:39,910 --> 01:28:36,650
Freud by another race that came here and

1946
01:28:42,219 --> 01:28:39,920
used nuclear weapons on us and we

1947
01:28:47,379 --> 01:28:42,229
couldn't defend ourselves life imitating

1948
01:28:50,219 --> 01:28:47,389
art if I'm wrong if this event that

1949
01:28:52,569 --> 01:28:50,229
you're describing of this catastrophic

1950
01:28:55,390 --> 01:28:52,579
potentially airburst nuclear explosion

1951
01:28:56,830 --> 01:28:55,400
occurred 180 million years ago what were

1952
01:28:59,890 --> 01:28:56,840
the conditions on Mars back then

1953
01:29:02,140 --> 01:28:59,900
according to theory a half a billion

1954
01:29:04,540 --> 01:29:02,150
years ago the planet began to lose its

1955
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:04,550
atmosphere because of a catastrophic

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01:29:12,459 --> 01:29:07,489
asteroid impact or some celestial body

1957
01:29:16,060 --> 01:29:12,469
that is a real mystery I by the way the

1958
01:29:18,489 --> 01:29:16,070
the date of half a billion years ago 500

1959
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:18,499
million years ago is kind of tentative

1960
01:29:26,319 --> 01:29:22,610
based on a lot of other kind of how many

1961
01:29:29,469 --> 01:29:26,329
craters form per year you know on Mars

1962
01:29:31,660 --> 01:29:29,479
etc of a certain size John we have to

1963
01:29:34,629 --> 01:29:31,670
interrupt this for the crater conundrum

1964
01:29:37,719 --> 01:29:34,639
the crater conundrum will be resolved on

1965
01:29:39,790 --> 01:29:37,729
the other side of the show our guest

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John Brandenburg the co-host Chris

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O'Brien I'm gene Steinberg you're in a

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believe me we returned with dr. John

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Brandenburg talking about the incredible

2069
01:34:21,850 --> 01:34:18,770
mysteries of Mars we have a crater

2070
01:34:24,100 --> 01:34:21,860
conundrum to deal with here as posed by

2071
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:24,110
our co-host Chris O'Brien any further

2072
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:26,330
comments to make John will just say that

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01:34:32,890 --> 01:34:30,650
the these evidence for a planetary wide

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01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:32,900
nuclear catastrophe a massive nuclear

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explosion on Mars is very strong in

2076
01:34:41,729 --> 01:34:37,630
consists of isotopes in the atmosphere a

2077
01:34:45,399 --> 01:34:41,739
big radioactive spot on Mars with

2078
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:45,409
radiating lines from it and evidence

2079
01:34:51,370 --> 01:34:47,690
from Mars meteorites that they said were

2080
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:51,380
subjected to a very powerful neutron

2081
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:54,650
radiation at some point in their their

2082
01:34:58,720 --> 01:34:56,330
existence before they were ejected and

2083
01:35:00,669 --> 01:34:58,730
sent to earth so we have very strong

2084
01:35:04,260 --> 01:35:00,679
evidence for the nuclear catastrophe

2085
01:35:06,790 --> 01:35:04,270
nuclear explosion what we don't have is

2086
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:06,800
something that can explain the facts

2087
01:35:11,290 --> 01:35:09,170
that we see we have a very fine

2088
01:35:13,330 --> 01:35:11,300
hypothesis natural nuclear reactor on

2089
01:35:15,729 --> 01:35:13,340
Mars that happened on earth we could

2090
01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:15,739
happen on earth on Mars however that

2091
01:35:20,709 --> 01:35:17,360
would have left a big crater and there's

2092
01:35:23,530 --> 01:35:20,719
no crater so we're kind of left with a

2093
01:35:27,669 --> 01:35:23,540
big question mark we have you know an

2094
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:27,679
idea that's kind of natural it fits

2095
01:35:33,490 --> 01:35:30,050
nine out of ten facts but the last

2096
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:33,500
glaring fact to fact number 10 it

2097
01:35:38,050 --> 01:35:35,690
doesn't fit because it would have left a

2098
01:35:39,879 --> 01:35:38,060
big crater and other scientists have

2099
01:35:41,470 --> 01:35:39,889
talked with me and I well maybe it

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01:35:44,590 --> 01:35:41,480
filled in or something like that

2101
01:35:47,020 --> 01:35:44,600
sure maybe we should fly over it was uh

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01:35:49,649 --> 01:35:47,030
we'll ground-penetrating radar maybe

2103
01:35:53,020 --> 01:35:49,659
we'll see a very crater from this event

2104
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:53,030
but it's right now it's a mystery big

2105
01:35:57,669 --> 01:35:55,760
explosion on Mars would have devastated

2106
01:36:00,700 --> 01:35:57,679
the planet and we don't know what caused

2107
01:36:03,340 --> 01:36:00,710
it at the same time here you wonder why

2108
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:03,350
the authorities at NASA don't seem to

2109
01:36:07,390 --> 01:36:05,210
take it seriously enough to push for

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01:36:09,310 --> 01:36:07,400
more appropriations right now nobody

2111
01:36:11,109 --> 01:36:09,320
cares to fund the space program

2112
01:36:12,310 --> 01:36:11,119
we haven't really seen any action since

2113
01:36:15,490 --> 01:36:12,320
the 1970s

2114
01:36:17,709 --> 01:36:15,500
the Space Shuttle is dying we're hoping

2115
01:36:19,899 --> 01:36:17,719
to have private industry like a Robert

2116
01:36:22,629 --> 01:36:19,909
Bigelow or the guy who founded PayPal

2117
01:36:25,689 --> 01:36:22,639
make up the difference or contract with

2118
01:36:27,819 --> 01:36:25,699
the Russians to do it so right now I

2119
01:36:30,189 --> 01:36:27,829
don't think any of us will be living at

2120
01:36:33,069 --> 01:36:30,199
the time we go back to Mars and if we

2121
01:36:36,430 --> 01:36:33,079
ever send a manned probe it's gonna be

2122
01:36:37,300 --> 01:36:36,440
wait after that actually I don't think

2123
01:36:39,910 --> 01:36:37,310
that's true

2124
01:36:41,620 --> 01:36:39,920
I think we're gonna be on Mars people

2125
01:36:43,780 --> 01:36:41,630
say we wouldn't have an african-american

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01:36:47,050 --> 01:36:43,790
US president for another hundred years

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01:36:50,819 --> 01:36:47,060
and now we got one and things have

2128
01:36:54,220 --> 01:36:50,829
speeded up and I think we'll be on Mars

2129
01:36:56,770 --> 01:36:54,230
far more quickly within a generation I

2130
01:36:58,899 --> 01:36:56,780
think we'll have humans on Mars and part

2131
01:37:02,500 --> 01:36:58,909
of the reason is because of this big

2132
01:37:04,750 --> 01:37:02,510
nuclear explosion we we would like to go

2133
01:37:06,399 --> 01:37:04,760
to Mars that's kind of what you would

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01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:06,409
say

2135
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:08,210
we were thinking am I going to Mars and

2136
01:37:12,819 --> 01:37:10,010
we decided maybe we could go to Mars

2137
01:37:16,060 --> 01:37:12,829
now we have to go to Mars our own

2138
01:37:17,229 --> 01:37:16,070
survival as a species may depend on what

2139
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:17,239
we find on Mars

2140
01:37:24,790 --> 01:37:20,449
if giant nuclear explosions can happen

2141
01:37:27,250 --> 01:37:24,800
on planets we would like to know exactly

2142
01:37:29,830 --> 01:37:27,260
the circumstances of that to make sure

2143
01:37:34,180 --> 01:37:29,840
it doesn't happen here let's say and

2144
01:37:36,550 --> 01:37:34,190
that that covers all the bases why don't

2145
01:37:39,580 --> 01:37:36,560
we go up to Mars and find out what

2146
01:37:42,629 --> 01:37:39,590
caused this big explosion for certain

2147
01:37:46,689 --> 01:37:42,639
not just a hypothesis for certain and

2148
01:37:50,770 --> 01:37:46,699
then basically find out whether it can

2149
01:37:54,910 --> 01:37:50,780
happen here if governor Tarkin is still

2150
01:37:57,939 --> 01:37:54,920
roaming the galaxy with his problem John

2151
01:37:59,919 --> 01:37:57,949
is that scientists enough scientists

2152
01:38:01,750 --> 01:37:59,929
have to take this proposition seriously

2153
01:38:04,450 --> 01:38:01,760
oh I think they will

2154
01:38:06,939 --> 01:38:04,460
I'm the scientists who actually who I

2155
01:38:08,979 --> 01:38:06,949
actually could get get their attention

2156
01:38:15,370 --> 01:38:08,989
long enough we need to go through my

2157
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:15,380
spiel I mean my their reaction was oh my

2158
01:38:23,620 --> 01:38:20,210
god but you realize also that science is

2159
01:38:28,330 --> 01:38:23,630
very conservative and especially Mars

2160
01:38:30,850 --> 01:38:28,340
so but hey the word is getting out I

2161
01:38:33,670 --> 01:38:30,860
wrote a book I'm telling I'm speaking

2162
01:38:35,380 --> 01:38:33,680
the truth as I understand it and I

2163
01:38:38,860 --> 01:38:35,390
believe people will respond I believe

2164
01:38:40,330 --> 01:38:38,870
the public may demand the answers of the

2165
01:38:41,860 --> 01:38:40,340
scientific community and of course the

2166
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:41,870
scientific community will not be able to

2167
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:45,410
provide them unless they send a lot of

2168
01:38:51,550 --> 01:38:49,250
Rovers a lot more probes and ultimately

2169
01:38:53,740 --> 01:38:51,560
people geologists especially nuclear

2170
01:38:56,170 --> 01:38:53,750
weapons specialists they have to send

2171
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:56,180
nuclear weapons specialists to Mars not

2172
01:39:03,430 --> 01:39:00,080
just geologists to basically figure out

2173
01:39:05,590 --> 01:39:03,440
what this was we have another another

2174
01:39:08,740 --> 01:39:05,600
element - that should be mentioned and

2175
01:39:11,470 --> 01:39:08,750
that is Chinese plans for going to the

2176
01:39:13,870 --> 01:39:11,480
moon there may be a way for the Chinese

2177
01:39:15,550 --> 01:39:13,880
to appropriate the moon and sort of not

2178
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:15,560
let anybody else land there if they're

2179
01:39:21,010 --> 01:39:19,010
able to actually have a you know some

2180
01:39:24,610 --> 01:39:21,020
sort of lasting presence there so that

2181
01:39:28,270 --> 01:39:24,620
would I can't worst accuse the Chinese

2182
01:39:29,950 --> 01:39:28,280
of something like that well I'm just

2183
01:39:31,990 --> 01:39:29,960
going on the conversation that I heard

2184
01:39:34,690 --> 01:39:32,000
Robert Bigelow have on another radio

2185
01:39:41,110 --> 01:39:34,700
show and he brought in tonight without

2186
01:39:43,570 --> 01:39:41,120
to bat you know force the Western powers

2187
01:39:45,940 --> 01:39:43,580
to - a bypass the moon and go to Mars is

2188
01:39:49,540 --> 01:39:45,950
it was what he was suggesting so that

2189
01:39:51,250 --> 01:39:49,550
maybe another political realm dance of

2190
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:51,260
course you know we didn't go to the moon

2191
01:39:54,310 --> 01:39:52,970
because we wanted to know whether was it

2192
01:39:56,620 --> 01:39:54,320
made out of green cheese or know how we

2193
01:39:58,360 --> 01:39:56,630
went there to beat the Russians and show

2194
01:40:01,090 --> 01:39:58,370
them up big time during the Cold War

2195
01:40:06,580 --> 01:40:01,100
so that basically our NATO allies would

2196
01:40:09,730 --> 01:40:06,590
stick with us and it worked and in fact

2197
01:40:11,650 --> 01:40:09,740
it tremendously cowled the russians

2198
01:40:13,660 --> 01:40:11,660
psychologically when we went to the moon

2199
01:40:15,550 --> 01:40:13,670
and they couldn't do it they're you know

2200
01:40:17,110 --> 01:40:15,560
they're big moon rocket blew up three

2201
01:40:19,290 --> 01:40:17,120
times on the launch pad killed a whole

2202
01:40:24,490 --> 01:40:19,300
bunch of people they were just

2203
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:24,500
humiliated by all into the moon and in

2204
01:40:28,420 --> 01:40:26,570
fact the closer we got to landing on the

2205
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:28,430
moon the more they kept repeating oh

2206
01:40:33,190 --> 01:40:30,410
we're not there is no moon race it's all

2207
01:40:37,060 --> 01:40:33,200
in the American imagination and secretly

2208
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:37,070
they were they had their cosmonauts

2209
01:40:43,359 --> 01:40:39,650
ready to launch to the moon using

2210
01:40:44,740 --> 01:40:43,369
completely untested stuff it was almost

2211
01:40:47,770 --> 01:40:44,750
a suicide mission

2212
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:47,780
and their moon rocket blew up on the pad

2213
01:40:52,779 --> 01:40:49,730
carrying the moon lander and everything

2214
01:40:55,299 --> 01:40:52,789
like and their moon capsule and so they

2215
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:55,309
scrubbed the mission they actually had

2216
01:40:59,859 --> 01:40:57,440
two astronauts sitting in another rocket

2217
01:41:01,120 --> 01:40:59,869
ready to join the big package in orbit

2218
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:01,130
and then go off to the moon and they

2219
01:41:06,879 --> 01:41:02,449
were gonna try and beat us there by a

2220
01:41:11,109 --> 01:41:06,889
week and that's you know the James Oberg

2221
01:41:13,540 --> 01:41:11,119
writes about this know that yes oh yeah

2222
01:41:17,049 --> 01:41:13,550
it they were desperate to get to the

2223
01:41:20,379 --> 01:41:17,059
moon ahead of us and they ignored all

2224
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:20,389
safety concerns finally and the result

2225
01:41:25,959 --> 01:41:24,650
was they they just couldn't do it and it

2226
01:41:27,700 --> 01:41:25,969
was a major turning point in the Cold

2227
01:41:29,890 --> 01:41:27,710
War in fact the Russians then said to

2228
01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:29,900
themselves and the Kremlin they said

2229
01:41:33,819 --> 01:41:32,480
don't get the Americans excited it once

2230
01:41:36,609 --> 01:41:33,829
you get the Americans are inherently

2231
01:41:38,350 --> 01:41:36,619
disorganized but once you get their mind

2232
01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:38,360
focused on something they can do amazing

2233
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:41,360
things but don't don't get them excited

2234
01:41:47,049 --> 01:41:45,050
don't let their minds focus and you know

2235
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:47,059
bin Laden should have should have

2236
01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:49,730
studied that well the Chinese have a

2237
01:41:56,109 --> 01:41:52,400
much different motivation I mean he is a

2238
01:41:57,790 --> 01:41:56,119
Liam to I think is helium 3 or 3 is one

2239
01:42:00,490 --> 01:41:57,800
of the things that they'd be going after

2240
01:42:03,850 --> 01:42:00,500
all so you know the by the way helium 3

2241
01:42:06,250 --> 01:42:03,860
is not so much a fusion resource as a

2242
01:42:08,100 --> 01:42:06,260
military fusion resource because once

2243
01:42:14,069 --> 01:42:08,110
you have helium-3 reactors

2244
01:42:17,890 --> 01:42:14,079
you can bake very powerful ships and

2245
01:42:19,620 --> 01:42:17,900
spaceships ocean ships submarines that

2246
01:42:22,330 --> 01:42:19,630
don't require any nuclear shielding

2247
01:42:26,500 --> 01:42:22,340
because the helium-3 burns can burn

2248
01:42:29,500 --> 01:42:26,510
create nuclear energy without heavy

2249
01:42:33,609 --> 01:42:29,510
shielding you can sit right next to the

2250
01:42:35,500 --> 01:42:33,619
fusion reactor and it does the magnetic

2251
01:42:40,870 --> 01:42:35,510
field that holds the plasma in there

2252
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:40,880
that's the shielding Wow that is that is

2253
01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:43,489
what I studied in great was controlled

2254
01:42:47,799 --> 01:42:45,440
nuclear fusion and we always wanted

2255
01:42:49,340 --> 01:42:47,809
helium-3 well we found out there was

2256
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:49,350
always helium-3 on the moon

2257
01:42:56,930 --> 01:42:52,650
I literally got down on my knees and

2258
01:42:59,270 --> 01:42:56,940
thank God that we found us because all

2259
01:43:01,460 --> 01:42:59,280
during my grad school they said helium-3

2260
01:43:03,650 --> 01:43:01,470
is the ideal fuel for fusion except

2261
01:43:06,110 --> 01:43:03,660
there isn't enough of it we can't find

2262
01:43:09,940 --> 01:43:06,120
any and then they found it on the moon

2263
01:43:14,150 --> 01:43:09,950
and it was it's the mother lode the moon

2264
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:14,160
okay what about Mars as Mars have it

2265
01:43:20,060 --> 01:43:18,090
oh yes Mars has some helium-3 in fact it

2266
01:43:22,150 --> 01:43:20,070
has more than you can probably strain

2267
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:22,160
helium-3 out of the Mars atmosphere

2268
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:25,170
pretty efficiently because Mars doesn't

2269
01:43:30,380 --> 01:43:26,850
have a magnetic field so with the solar

2270
01:43:32,930 --> 01:43:30,390
wind kind of strikes Mars and the solar

2271
01:43:34,910 --> 01:43:32,940
wind is full of helium-3 and it

2272
01:43:36,580 --> 01:43:34,920
basically then that's why the moon has

2273
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:36,590
so much helium-3 it's solar wind

2274
01:43:41,690 --> 01:43:40,080
particles striking the lunar surface and

2275
01:43:44,390 --> 01:43:41,700
then sticking the particles get

2276
01:43:47,540 --> 01:43:44,400
implanted in the dust screens I still

2277
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:47,550
feel on earth John we want to go to the

2278
01:43:55,490 --> 01:43:50,970
Moon and Mars to get helium-3 oh yes

2279
01:43:56,900 --> 01:43:55,500
well there's the best way to use nuclear

2280
01:44:00,620 --> 01:43:56,910
power on earth

2281
01:44:02,660 --> 01:44:00,630
I've decided as a fusion guy is you have

2282
01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:02,670
a what's called a hyper nuclear reactor

2283
01:44:10,310 --> 01:44:06,480
you do a fusion core but then you have a

2284
01:44:12,620 --> 01:44:10,320
kind of nuclear rhenium shell around it

2285
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:12,630
and it turns out when you do it this way

2286
01:44:17,450 --> 01:44:14,250
it burns up all the nuclear waste

2287
01:44:19,970 --> 01:44:17,460
well that's pure waste but we're gonna

2288
01:44:21,530 --> 01:44:19,980
have another kind of waste here some

2289
01:44:23,510 --> 01:44:21,540
kind of waste management we have to do

2290
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:23,520
if we don't do this break we have

2291
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:25,890
absolutely John Brandenburg the co-host

2292
01:44:36,940 --> 01:44:28,290
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2293
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:39,320
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2308
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have you ever wondered why banks

2309
01:45:15,810 --> 01:45:14,050
stockbrokers investment advisors won't

2310
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2311
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2312
01:45:21,570 --> 01:45:19,900
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2313
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2314
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2315
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2316
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2317
01:46:04,700 --> 01:46:02,180
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2318
01:46:06,500 --> 01:46:04,710
far too much helium as a matter of fact

2319
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:06,510
he's going to audition for the next

2320
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:11,280
movie about the Chipmunks dr. John

2321
01:46:15,710 --> 01:46:13,530
Brandenburg joins us I'm gene Steinberg

2322
01:46:18,410 --> 01:46:15,720
you're in the para Cass Chris let's

2323
01:46:20,990 --> 01:46:18,420
explore more of the mysteries and the

2324
01:46:27,140 --> 01:46:21,000
majesty of Mars and why we need to get

2325
01:46:29,210 --> 01:46:27,150
there yesterday okay the Helius don't

2326
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:29,220
make imitations your day job don't give

2327
01:46:34,910 --> 01:46:33,330
up your day job I promise ya I won't

2328
01:46:37,910 --> 01:46:34,920
give it up the reason why I brought it

2329
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:37,920
up is because you know with gene your

2330
01:46:42,590 --> 01:46:40,770
comment about the the appropriations you

2331
01:46:44,900 --> 01:46:42,600
know dwindling off we we're seeing the

2332
01:46:48,890 --> 01:46:44,910
last of the of the space shuttle flights

2333
01:46:52,010 --> 01:46:48,900
I think coming up here and it seems like

2334
01:46:54,050 --> 01:46:52,020
we have really taken a backseat to to

2335
01:46:56,390 --> 01:46:54,060
space exploration to a certainty manned

2336
01:46:59,780 --> 01:46:56,400
space exploration and the Chinese do

2337
01:47:03,500 --> 01:46:59,790
have pretty extensive plans to go to the

2338
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:03,510
moon and and as Bigelow pointed out in

2339
01:47:07,660 --> 01:47:05,250
this interview that I heard with him uh

2340
01:47:10,670 --> 01:47:07,670
he rarely does interviews and of course

2341
01:47:13,670 --> 01:47:10,680
you know being having his own aerospace

2342
01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:13,680
company and he's I think talking with

2343
01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:16,080
NASA about helping them you know shore

2344
01:47:19,670 --> 01:47:17,760
up and expand the International Space

2345
01:47:22,610 --> 01:47:19,680
Station with his his the inflatable

2346
01:47:24,710 --> 01:47:22,620
modules that has been testing he's the

2347
01:47:26,510 --> 01:47:24,720
only person private individual he's like

2348
01:47:34,450 --> 01:47:26,520
Goldfinger he's got two satellites up

2349
01:47:40,910 --> 01:47:37,400
there we go so so I went when someone

2350
01:47:43,070 --> 01:47:40,920
like this talks which is publicly I tend

2351
01:47:45,140 --> 01:47:43,080
to to listen carefully and one of the

2352
01:47:48,170 --> 01:47:45,150
things that he mentioned was the the

2353
01:47:50,300 --> 01:47:48,180
legality of actually having a lasting

2354
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:50,310
presence on the moon which would almost

2355
01:47:54,830 --> 01:47:52,770
be like an Xing or whatever that word is

2356
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:54,840
the moon and and there would be some

2357
01:47:59,110 --> 01:47:56,370
question of whether they could actually

2358
01:48:02,330 --> 01:47:59,120
grant permission or not for other

2359
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:02,340
countries to actually go there so his

2360
01:48:06,150 --> 01:48:04,050
point with this whole conversation was

2361
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:06,160
if they're able to annex the

2362
01:48:11,070 --> 01:48:09,730
in some way shape or form then the next

2363
01:48:15,990 --> 01:48:11,080
logical step for the Western powers

2364
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:16,000
would be to go to Mars and no mr.

2365
01:48:23,820 --> 01:48:19,090
Bigelow is a very smart guy in a very

2366
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:23,830
farsighted guy and by the way you know I

2367
01:48:27,330 --> 01:48:26,110
shouldn't compare him to the guy in

2368
01:48:29,850 --> 01:48:27,340
Moonraker

2369
01:48:33,450 --> 01:48:29,860
he's got far more imagination for one

2370
01:48:36,420 --> 01:48:33,460
thing mr. Bigelow wants to get us make

2371
01:48:40,140 --> 01:48:36,430
us spacefaring and he's investing his

2372
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:40,150
own money in it he's a visionary and as

2373
01:48:46,340 --> 01:48:42,960
it turns out the Chinese cannot legally

2374
01:48:49,350 --> 01:48:46,350
appropriate the moon because of a

2375
01:48:51,210 --> 01:48:49,360
little-known treaty called with that the

2376
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:51,220
United States sign sort of the Russians

2377
01:48:56,460 --> 01:48:53,170
so have the Chinese called the Outer

2378
01:49:00,000 --> 01:48:56,470
Space Treaty of 1967 it's a very

2379
01:49:02,910 --> 01:49:00,010
important tree that treaty says that no

2380
01:49:05,250 --> 01:49:02,920
earthly nation can claim any heavenly

2381
01:49:09,450 --> 01:49:05,260
bodies or regions of space as their own

2382
01:49:11,580 --> 01:49:09,460
territory and it was meant to head off a

2383
01:49:13,950 --> 01:49:11,590
nuclear war over the moon during the

2384
01:49:16,890 --> 01:49:13,960
Apollo era well if the Russians the

2385
01:49:19,530 --> 01:49:16,900
United States said okay we're a race for

2386
01:49:24,060 --> 01:49:19,540
the moon by the time the Russians were

2387
01:49:25,860 --> 01:49:24,070
obviously losing the race they said you

2388
01:49:29,250 --> 01:49:25,870
can't claim you can't make the moon the

2389
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:29,260
51st state right and the Americans said

2390
01:49:33,810 --> 01:49:31,210
yeah we're not going to make it the 51st

2391
01:49:36,870 --> 01:49:33,820
state and we can't do that about Mars

2392
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:36,880
either we've the treaty by the way is

2393
01:49:40,230 --> 01:49:38,890
very important because it says that if

2394
01:49:42,750 --> 01:49:40,240
that's one cause of the treating the

2395
01:49:45,450 --> 01:49:42,760
other Clause is you can't have nuclear

2396
01:49:48,420 --> 01:49:45,460
weapons in space and everyone agrees

2397
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:48,430
that that is a really good thing to have

2398
01:49:55,050 --> 01:49:53,170
an agreement on because John do you

2399
01:50:06,210 --> 01:49:55,060
believe that there's no nuclear weapons

2400
01:50:08,310 --> 01:50:06,220
in space well not many of them we did

2401
01:50:10,590 --> 01:50:08,320
with the Native Americans and you know

2402
01:50:13,260 --> 01:50:10,600
look I think of 6070 treaties that have

2403
01:50:15,510 --> 01:50:13,270
been totally blown apart you know I

2404
01:50:18,780 --> 01:50:15,520
think what Bigelow was no country no

2405
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:18,790
country follows a treaty when it decides

2406
01:50:24,490 --> 01:50:19,970
is no longer that's

2407
01:50:26,050 --> 01:50:24,500
Pender's to follow exactly you know who

2408
01:50:30,490 --> 01:50:26,060
are you comparing the United States with

2409
01:50:32,500 --> 01:50:30,500
the French well well I mean possession

2410
01:50:34,690 --> 01:50:32,510
is nine-tenths of the laws they say and

2411
01:50:38,170 --> 01:50:34,700
if the if the Chinese are able to create

2412
01:50:40,030 --> 01:50:38,180
a a revolving series of missions to the

2413
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:40,040
moon and have some sort of presence

2414
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:42,890
there and actually attempt to begin

2415
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:44,960
exploiting the natural resources that

2416
01:50:48,730 --> 01:50:46,610
are found there like helium-3 as we were

2417
01:50:51,550 --> 01:50:48,740
talking about it'll be very difficult to

2418
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:51,560
the u.s. to I was at a place by the way

2419
01:50:59,980 --> 01:50:55,010
where they'd burn helium-3 and generated

2420
01:51:04,360 --> 01:50:59,990
a hundred hundred kilowatts a pure

2421
01:51:08,050 --> 01:51:04,370
fusion power using that's enough to run

2422
01:51:09,850 --> 01:51:08,060
100 microwave ovens to light a hundred

2423
01:51:13,540 --> 01:51:09,860
houses and they generated with pure

2424
01:51:16,630 --> 01:51:13,550
helium-3 no radiation well in fact they

2425
01:51:18,850 --> 01:51:16,640
had it was so clean they could send the

2426
01:51:20,500 --> 01:51:18,860
technicians into the chamber right after

2427
01:51:23,170 --> 01:51:20,510
they'd run because it doesn't produce

2428
01:51:26,710 --> 01:51:23,180
any radioactivity that was done in

2429
01:51:29,890 --> 01:51:26,720
Britain at the jet tokamak and I just

2430
01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:29,900
happened to be visiting the day after

2431
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:32,000
they'd done it they they kind of did

2432
01:51:36,190 --> 01:51:34,610
that experiment as kind of a end of an

2433
01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:36,200
experience a set of experiments they've

2434
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:37,280
been doing and it was the last

2435
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:39,770
experiment because they knew that it was

2436
01:51:43,780 --> 01:51:41,840
so safe that they could just shut it

2437
01:51:46,780 --> 01:51:43,790
down and do some maintenance on the

2438
01:51:49,450 --> 01:51:46,790
experiment afterwards so it can be done

2439
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:49,460
and all you need is a lot of helium-3

2440
01:51:59,650 --> 01:51:55,250
and would that be difficult it

2441
01:52:04,180 --> 01:51:59,660
technically to obtain you know three on

2442
01:52:08,140 --> 01:52:04,190
earth when the curious tritium is a

2443
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:08,150
radioactive form of hydrogen and every

2444
01:52:14,970 --> 01:52:10,370
12 years half of it turns into helium-3

2445
01:52:19,170 --> 01:52:14,980
and they use that in nuclear weapons so

2446
01:52:21,220 --> 01:52:19,180
we actually have a lot of helium-3 I

2447
01:52:23,980 --> 01:52:21,230
asked the fellow at a conference

2448
01:52:25,870 --> 01:52:23,990
somebody who was I was saying in a

2449
01:52:28,450 --> 01:52:25,880
conference oh we don't have enough

2450
01:52:30,130 --> 01:52:28,460
helium-3 to do this and somebody pulled

2451
01:52:32,290 --> 01:52:30,140
me aside after the talk and said

2452
01:52:32,689 --> 01:52:32,300
actually we have lots of helium-3 and I

2453
01:52:34,790 --> 01:52:32,699
said how

2454
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:34,800
much he said if I told you how much then

2455
01:52:42,229 --> 01:52:36,090
you could tell how many nuclear weapons

2456
01:52:45,469 --> 01:52:42,239
we had so we actually have the uncle

2457
01:52:48,609 --> 01:52:45,479
Sammy has squirreled away several tons

2458
01:52:51,919 --> 01:52:48,619
of helium-3 is it turns out for very

2459
01:52:55,310 --> 01:52:51,929
rainy day what's that all right so how

2460
01:52:57,649 --> 01:52:55,320
do you know this John oh I'm not in a

2461
01:53:00,020 --> 01:52:57,659
wink from this guy okay

2462
01:53:01,910 --> 01:53:00,030
and I knew the guy is a kind of part of

2463
01:53:04,100 --> 01:53:01,920
the nuclear weapons establishment he's

2464
01:53:08,270 --> 01:53:04,110
somebody you trust to provide honest

2465
01:53:10,669 --> 01:53:08,280
information well yes yes I it well it

2466
01:53:12,890 --> 01:53:10,679
and it was basically a nod and a wink I

2467
01:53:16,989 --> 01:53:12,900
said hey you know see how much do we

2468
01:53:21,259 --> 01:53:16,999
have and he says I can't tell you that

2469
01:53:25,310 --> 01:53:21,269
and I basically started I said well we

2470
01:53:30,699 --> 01:53:25,320
have you know so much and he kind of not

2471
01:53:38,089 --> 01:53:34,189
you played the nod and the wink game

2472
01:53:40,699 --> 01:53:38,099
which is winkin blinkin a not a wink at

2473
01:53:42,319 --> 01:53:40,709
the same time meaning yes I'm agreeing

2474
01:53:44,149 --> 01:53:42,329
with you but there's probably more I'd

2475
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:44,159
like to tell you but what I can't tell

2476
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:47,610
you you know when you when you're

2477
01:53:54,350 --> 01:53:49,920
talking to people in the classify

2478
01:53:58,430 --> 01:53:54,360
community you know there are certain

2479
01:54:01,129 --> 01:53:58,440
protocols you you follow and it's almost

2480
01:54:04,669 --> 01:54:01,139
like a reporter asking you know for a

2481
01:54:06,620 --> 01:54:04,679
story on deep background sort of but

2482
01:54:12,890 --> 01:54:06,630
anyway we do have a large amount of

2483
01:54:14,540 --> 01:54:12,900
helium-3 and we I don't know how much we

2484
01:54:17,060 --> 01:54:14,550
have certainly enough to do a lot of

2485
01:54:18,859 --> 01:54:17,070
icky liam three fusion experiments by

2486
01:54:21,709 --> 01:54:18,869
the way we can get all the helium-3 we

2487
01:54:24,229 --> 01:54:21,719
want by making radioactive hydrogen

2488
01:54:27,469 --> 01:54:24,239
called tritium and letting it decay in a

2489
01:54:33,879 --> 01:54:27,479
big task you basically just fill a tank

2490
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:39,620
every year or so you you tap off part of

2491
01:54:45,500 --> 01:54:42,719
it and clean out the helium-3 because

2492
01:54:46,410 --> 01:54:45,510
it's in 12 years half of it will be

2493
01:54:50,399 --> 01:54:46,420
healing three

2494
01:54:54,570 --> 01:54:50,409
so that's that's one way to eat helium-3

2495
01:54:57,500 --> 01:54:54,580
one okay so why do we have to go to the

2496
01:55:00,209 --> 01:54:57,510
moon if we have this amount here why

2497
01:55:01,350 --> 01:55:00,219
well you don't want to you don't want to

2498
01:55:03,330 --> 01:55:01,360
make healing through that because I mean

2499
01:55:05,669 --> 01:55:03,340
storing a large amounts of radioactive

2500
01:55:07,290 --> 01:55:05,679
stuff and it's just uh it's just a mess

2501
01:55:09,959 --> 01:55:07,300
that's what you do in a national

2502
01:55:13,649 --> 01:55:09,969
emergency if you need helium-3 what you

2503
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:13,659
do if you are smart is you go to the

2504
01:55:18,330 --> 01:55:16,330
moon and stake out a claim particularly

2505
01:55:21,180 --> 01:55:18,340
at tranquility base which is the first

2506
01:55:23,370 --> 01:55:21,190
place Americans landed and has the

2507
01:55:24,990 --> 01:55:23,380
richest helium-3 as it turns out just by

2508
01:55:27,450 --> 01:55:25,000
asking question about that and we'll

2509
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Brandenburg the coast is Chris O'Brien

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we are on the lookout for helium-3 but I

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02:00:24,500 --> 02:00:22,139
think Chris is inhaled our entire supply

2614
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:24,510
on this planet that's what we have to go

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02:00:31,790 --> 02:00:29,610
to the moon Berg joins us on the para

2616
02:00:34,459 --> 02:00:31,800
cast I'm gene Steinberg so the big

2617
02:00:37,279 --> 02:00:34,469
question here is what kind of resources

2618
02:00:39,830 --> 02:00:37,289
does it take to get us to the moon and

2619
02:00:43,069 --> 02:00:39,840
to be able to bring back enough helium-3

2620
02:00:44,419 --> 02:00:43,079
what's it gonna cost what's the basic

2621
02:00:47,029 --> 02:00:44,429
well what is the return on our

2622
02:00:49,399 --> 02:00:47,039
investment the ROI as they say in the ad

2623
02:00:52,009 --> 02:00:49,409
business well as I said people have

2624
02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:52,019
burned helium-3 in the tokamak type

2625
02:00:57,679 --> 02:00:56,130
devices and it burned nicely now they

2626
02:00:59,839 --> 02:00:57,689
didn't burn them enough of it to

2627
02:01:01,909 --> 02:00:59,849
actually make power that's kind of a

2628
02:01:06,949 --> 02:01:01,919
science fiction exercise I wrote a book

2629
02:01:09,500 --> 02:01:06,959
called 2012 asteroid 2012 suppo Luna and

2630
02:01:13,069 --> 02:01:09,510
in that they one of those subplots is

2631
02:01:16,489 --> 02:01:13,079
they actually make helium-3 work and a

2632
02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:16,499
tokamak and it immediately changes the

2633
02:01:21,799 --> 02:01:19,530
entire energy situation on earth it just

2634
02:01:24,049 --> 02:01:21,809
goes through the the world's economy

2635
02:01:26,120 --> 02:01:24,059
like a shock wave that's not what they

2636
02:01:27,529 --> 02:01:26,130
intend either but it doesn't suddenly

2637
02:01:30,469 --> 02:01:27,539
all the oil on the ground the Middle

2638
02:01:33,799 --> 02:01:30,479
East is worth much less because they

2639
02:01:36,409 --> 02:01:33,809
have helium-3 would we be desperate

2640
02:01:38,179 --> 02:01:36,419
though to want to put a stop to our

2641
02:01:41,629 --> 02:01:38,189
dependence on the Middle East look how

2642
02:01:44,029 --> 02:01:41,639
unstable it is I mean we said we're

2643
02:01:46,189 --> 02:01:44,039
going to take helium-3 we're going to

2644
02:01:48,020 --> 02:01:46,199
exploit it we're gonna find out how it

2645
02:01:50,359 --> 02:01:48,030
could serve our interests I think the

2646
02:01:53,270 --> 02:01:50,369
price of oil would go down like 40 times

2647
02:01:56,389 --> 02:01:53,280
overnight imagine dealing with somebody

2648
02:02:00,589 --> 02:01:56,399
who's supplying you like something you

2649
02:02:02,929 --> 02:02:00,599
need like wheat and you know every week

2650
02:02:05,450 --> 02:02:02,939
there's a crisis they can't get along

2651
02:02:07,490 --> 02:02:05,460
the family that runs this business can

2652
02:02:10,430 --> 02:02:07,500
along with each other you know there

2653
02:02:11,990 --> 02:02:10,440
there you know and so the the so you're

2654
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:12,000
dependent on them and yet they're

2655
02:02:16,790 --> 02:02:14,850
constantly threatening to suspend their

2656
02:02:18,140 --> 02:02:16,800
supplies or their supplies are

2657
02:02:20,810 --> 02:02:18,150
constantly in danger because they can't

2658
02:02:24,229 --> 02:02:20,820
get along with each other it's just this

2659
02:02:27,530 --> 02:02:24,239
is just maddening no intelligent country

2660
02:02:30,500 --> 02:02:27,540
would continue to depend on completely

2661
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:30,510
unreliable people to supply them with

2662
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:33,930
stuff I mean the the people in the

2663
02:02:40,910 --> 02:02:35,610
Middle East need to get their act

2664
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:40,920
together I'm speaking politely and we

2665
02:02:46,190 --> 02:02:43,770
cannot depend on them for oil anymore

2666
02:02:49,459 --> 02:02:46,200
all right by the time this airs gas

2667
02:02:51,170 --> 02:02:49,469
maybe $5 a gallon every time a camel

2668
02:02:52,820 --> 02:02:51,180
sneezes in the Middle East now they

2669
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:52,830
raise the price of oil I mean there's

2670
02:02:56,450 --> 02:02:54,930
another there's some other actors in

2671
02:03:00,140 --> 02:02:56,460
this who are in the Middle East

2672
02:03:01,850 --> 02:03:00,150
whom I think should be investigated or

2673
02:03:03,979 --> 02:03:01,860
something because they're they're taking

2674
02:03:06,410 --> 02:03:03,989
advantage of this to raise the price of

2675
02:03:08,690 --> 02:03:06,420
oil anytime there's a demonstration or

2676
02:03:10,940 --> 02:03:08,700
or a Qadhafi bombs one of his own

2677
02:03:14,900 --> 02:03:10,950
refineries or something like this we

2678
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:14,910
nicely call them oil speculators yes

2679
02:03:23,450 --> 02:03:18,450
there are the speculators are just this

2680
02:03:27,410 --> 02:03:23,460
is a a dream come true for speculators

2681
02:03:31,100 --> 02:03:27,420
in commodities like this endless turmoil

2682
02:03:35,540 --> 02:03:31,110
and I know intelligent culture would

2683
02:03:37,580 --> 02:03:35,550
depend on this kind of reason would be

2684
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:37,590
held hostage by this kind of resource I

2685
02:03:46,250 --> 02:03:42,530
do not know well we're trying to form

2686
02:03:49,610 --> 02:03:46,260
you know I mean this administration to

2687
02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:49,620
its credit is trying to get us to go to

2688
02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:51,690
green fuels and stuff like this so we

2689
02:03:57,440 --> 02:03:55,770
can lessen our dependence and well yeah

2690
02:03:59,180 --> 02:03:57,450
and well you know maybe we shouldn't get

2691
02:04:00,620 --> 02:03:59,190
into the drill baby drill thing here

2692
02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:00,630
because let's go back to the mysteries

2693
02:04:08,750 --> 02:04:06,930
of Mars now too deep and they set off a

2694
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:08,760
nuclear explosion right and the other

2695
02:04:12,380 --> 02:04:10,770
problem of course is that you know the

2696
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:12,390
drilling reminds me of what I have to do

2697
02:04:16,670 --> 02:04:14,370
with my teeth right now I don't want to

2698
02:04:17,930 --> 02:04:16,680
think about it and I think Bryce would

2699
02:04:18,950 --> 02:04:17,940
agree with me all right seriously

2700
02:04:21,260 --> 02:04:18,960
speaking

2701
02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:21,270
let's look at some of the other aspects

2702
02:04:26,209 --> 02:04:23,850
of this all right so we have Mars it

2703
02:04:28,100 --> 02:04:26,219
would be really glorious to get back

2704
02:04:30,580 --> 02:04:28,110
there maybe Robert Bigelow could fund

2705
02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:30,590
the expedition he has the money Oh

2706
02:04:35,450 --> 02:04:33,810
Warren Buffett and then Bill Gates they

2707
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:35,460
can Olsen and they could fund it out of

2708
02:04:44,090 --> 02:04:38,010
their pocket change sure it's for one

2709
02:04:46,970 --> 02:04:44,100
thing as as Elon Musk has shown with the

2710
02:04:48,620 --> 02:04:46,980
dragon nine if you get the right rocket

2711
02:04:50,510 --> 02:04:48,630
scientists together you can build a

2712
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:50,520
pretty cheap rocket that does what it's

2713
02:04:55,370 --> 02:04:53,250
supposed to do I mean I think they

2714
02:04:56,780 --> 02:04:55,380
should just put people on the thing on

2715
02:04:58,459 --> 02:04:56,790
that thing and launch it to the space

2716
02:05:00,890 --> 02:04:58,469
well that I'm hoping they'll launch

2717
02:05:02,180 --> 02:05:00,900
theirs drag it next dragon I will just

2718
02:05:04,490 --> 02:05:02,190
go right up to the space station and

2719
02:05:06,229 --> 02:05:04,500
dock with it and they have a pressurized

2720
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:06,239
cabin oh that's they can actually put

2721
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:08,010
some seats in and put people in it but

2722
02:05:11,959 --> 02:05:09,690
you know they they don't want to be

2723
02:05:13,729 --> 02:05:11,969
hasty about that well we don't want for

2724
02:05:15,140 --> 02:05:13,739
us to have some kind of disaster they

2725
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:15,150
have to be very cautious because it's

2726
02:05:19,700 --> 02:05:16,890
not question here where the world is

2727
02:05:23,090 --> 02:05:19,710
watching and if someone doesn't survive

2728
02:05:25,340 --> 02:05:23,100
that expedition you know they could lose

2729
02:05:28,790 --> 02:05:25,350
a lot of stockholders real fast oh yeah

2730
02:05:30,709 --> 02:05:28,800
then everybody all of the good

2731
02:05:32,570 --> 02:05:30,719
milquetoast say well we told you so

2732
02:05:34,430 --> 02:05:32,580
you know people were supposed to go into

2733
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:34,440
space we have been born with space suits

2734
02:05:40,940 --> 02:05:38,010
and you know there's there's no there's

2735
02:05:44,300 --> 02:05:40,950
no type and but really speaking here

2736
02:05:47,030 --> 02:05:44,310
though before we even get man to Mars or

2737
02:05:50,420 --> 02:05:47,040
another lunar expedition how do we

2738
02:05:52,910 --> 02:05:50,430
validate all of your theories you have a

2739
02:05:55,130 --> 02:05:52,920
lot of fascinating theories here about

2740
02:05:57,680 --> 02:05:55,140
always on Mars which is obviously not

2741
02:05:59,930 --> 02:05:57,690
yours alone a lot of people hold that we

2742
02:06:03,140 --> 02:05:59,940
talked about the nuclear explosion on

2743
02:06:05,660 --> 02:06:03,150
Mars artificial nuclear Mars it's

2744
02:06:07,850 --> 02:06:05,670
actually pretty easy to validate okay

2745
02:06:09,890 --> 02:06:07,860
all you have to do is weigh in the land

2746
02:06:13,250 --> 02:06:09,900
or in the hot loam

2747
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:13,260
so we do have oil so we have to send a

2748
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:15,570
Martian probe forget about humans

2749
02:06:20,180 --> 02:06:18,570
Martian probes have to be sent to

2750
02:06:24,500 --> 02:06:20,190
validate this how do we validate the

2751
02:06:26,900 --> 02:06:24,510
face on Mars do we go to that well well

2752
02:06:28,050 --> 02:06:26,910
just by coincidence the big radiation

2753
02:06:33,300 --> 02:06:28,060
spot on Mars

2754
02:06:37,080 --> 02:06:33,310
is about 500 maybe 600 miles north wet

2755
02:06:41,370 --> 02:06:37,090
northwest of where Cydonia men's is so

2756
02:06:43,860 --> 02:06:41,380
you can almost drop a second probe

2757
02:06:46,710 --> 02:06:43,870
inside onea Menza but of course they're

2758
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:46,720
not going to do that they'll simply say

2759
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:48,130
oh that would be silly to do that

2760
02:06:53,700 --> 02:06:51,730
because there's nothing there well you

2761
02:06:55,770 --> 02:06:53,710
can find another excuse can't you do you

2762
02:06:58,320 --> 02:06:55,780
have to say we're going there to see the

2763
02:07:00,690 --> 02:06:58,330
face on Mars or to validate dr.

2764
02:07:04,260 --> 02:07:00,700
Brandenburg's theory that there was an

2765
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:04,270
explosion I don't have to say that I

2766
02:07:08,670 --> 02:07:05,890
think what you should do is you should

2767
02:07:10,590 --> 02:07:08,680
send we have developed a nuclear powered

2768
02:07:13,140 --> 02:07:10,600
Rover to go investigate the big methane

2769
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:13,150
vents they should just make a clone of

2770
02:07:16,980 --> 02:07:14,770
that I mean it's a very good design this

2771
02:07:18,810 --> 02:07:16,990
nuclear-powered so it doesn't need to

2772
02:07:20,430 --> 02:07:18,820
worry about solar panels the solar

2773
02:07:21,140 --> 02:07:20,440
panels kept getting covered with Mars

2774
02:07:24,270 --> 02:07:21,150
dust

2775
02:07:25,890 --> 02:07:24,280
fortunately then or they could send one

2776
02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:25,900
of the probes they you know one of the

2777
02:07:28,380 --> 02:07:26,890
things they've already built but they

2778
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:28,390
just got into trouble of building this

2779
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:30,370
one designing and building this new

2780
02:07:34,620 --> 02:07:31,930
nuclear-powered Rovers as big as a

2781
02:07:39,300 --> 02:07:34,630
Volkswagen and it can drive all night

2782
02:07:41,940 --> 02:07:39,310
and they could land that in this

2783
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:41,950
northern mayor acid alien region and

2784
02:07:45,300 --> 02:07:43,930
take samples and if you ask the right

2785
02:07:48,150 --> 02:07:45,310
question if you give it the right

2786
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:48,160
instruments you'll be able to tell at

2787
02:07:54,060 --> 02:07:50,890
least in terms of the nuclear reactions

2788
02:07:56,450 --> 02:07:54,070
involved what actually happened remember

2789
02:07:59,340 --> 02:07:56,460
we have a lot of experience in analyzing

2790
02:08:01,890 --> 02:07:59,350
nuclear stuff on earth from the Cold War

2791
02:08:03,510 --> 02:08:01,900
I would also well by the way John that

2792
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:03,520
it would be more reliable than a

2793
02:08:08,040 --> 02:08:05,770
Volkswagen which is not known to be the

2794
02:08:10,020 --> 02:08:08,050
most reliable car in the world I know

2795
02:08:12,330 --> 02:08:10,030
the car enthusiasts will now hate me and

2796
02:08:14,460 --> 02:08:12,340
say well I love my new beetle or my

2797
02:08:15,930 --> 02:08:14,470
percent or all the other cars in

2798
02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:15,940
Volkswagen came out with we're not

2799
02:08:20,430 --> 02:08:18,010
talking about how much fun they are

2800
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:20,440
we're talking about reliability we are

2801
02:08:25,140 --> 02:08:22,570
talking to the very reliable dr. John

2802
02:08:27,300 --> 02:08:25,150
Brandenburg the co-host is Chris O'Brien

2803
02:08:29,940 --> 02:08:27,310
and I don't know if he's given up the

2804
02:08:34,610 --> 02:08:29,950
helium yet but let's do it I'm gene

2805
02:08:40,109 --> 02:08:34,620
Steinberg you're in the Burrow cast

2806
02:08:46,419 --> 02:08:44,139
is there a secret UFO agenda to strange

2807
02:08:48,789 --> 02:08:46,429
creatures from the darkest corners of

2808
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the mind roam the earth is there

2809
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evidence suggesting that there are

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people government's corporations and

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whole professions intent on

2856
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short-circuiting humanity's well-being

2857
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GMO food legislation protecting big

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02:10:52,830 --> 02:10:50,949
agriculture the attempted elimination of

2859
02:10:54,719 --> 02:10:52,840
vitamins and alternative medicines it

2860
02:10:56,729 --> 02:10:54,729
seems their hand has been tipped they

2861
02:10:59,100 --> 02:10:56,739
want to dictate your health wealth and

2862
02:11:01,830 --> 02:10:59,110
your longevity whatever the outcome we

2863
02:11:03,779 --> 02:11:01,840
have a solution wild edible food why

2864
02:11:05,669 --> 02:11:03,789
worry about food when all has been

2865
02:11:07,319 --> 02:11:05,679
provided we imagine that we were ejected

2866
02:11:09,479 --> 02:11:07,329
from the garden and never invited back

2867
02:11:11,370 --> 02:11:09,489
but the gardens still here there is an

2868
02:11:12,989 --> 02:11:11,380
endless wild abundance which grows all

2869
02:11:14,250 --> 02:11:12,999
over our green earth just waiting for

2870
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you to wake up and see it

2871
02:11:19,439 --> 02:11:16,449
let Auto Linda Runyon teach you how to

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see no gap prepare store and eat wild

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02:11:24,390 --> 02:11:22,389
edible food save money add nutrition and

2874
02:11:26,879 --> 02:11:24,400
ignore the noise when you go shopping in

2875
02:11:29,669 --> 02:11:26,889
nature's supermarket go to of the field

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02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:29,679
comm and get started today or call one

2877
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eight eight eight fifty one eat free

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that's of the field calm or call one

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2880
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begin to see a different world

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attack I wasn't sure what what's going

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to happen I needed to keep on working

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02:11:57,760 --> 02:11:55,550
but now it's becoming a problem I heard

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02:12:00,640 --> 02:11:57,770
about these garlic cayenne drops and

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02:12:02,470 --> 02:12:00,650
hoped it would help me well I've been

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taking them for about four months in the

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02:12:06,550 --> 02:12:05,120
way I'm feeling now I can see how I just

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might make it to retirement

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[Music]

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02:13:01,980 --> 02:12:57,960
hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

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[Music]

2908
02:13:08,359 --> 02:13:06,599
ladies and gentlemen we have two more

2909
02:13:11,149 --> 02:13:08,369
segments left for this week's episode

2910
02:13:13,459 --> 02:13:11,159
the power cast our guest for his encore

2911
02:13:15,589 --> 02:13:13,469
dr. John Brandenburg talking about the

2912
02:13:18,229 --> 02:13:15,599
mysteries and the magic and majesty of

2913
02:13:20,810 --> 02:13:18,239
Mars and also Chris O'Brien has now

2914
02:13:23,060 --> 02:13:20,820
recovered from his helium I'm gonna say

2915
02:13:25,009 --> 02:13:23,070
something about the Chinese space

2916
02:13:28,429 --> 02:13:25,019
program and its ambitions to go to the

2917
02:13:31,029 --> 02:13:28,439
moon okay when when the Russians and the

2918
02:13:34,100 --> 02:13:31,039
United States we're racing to the moon

2919
02:13:36,469 --> 02:13:34,110
we were launching astronauts and

2920
02:13:40,370 --> 02:13:36,479
cosmonauts about once a month we were

2921
02:13:43,069 --> 02:13:40,380
really we in fact both sides were taking

2922
02:13:45,049 --> 02:13:43,079
a lot of risks that's why we lost the

2923
02:13:47,390 --> 02:13:45,059
three astronauts in the Apollo fire

2924
02:13:50,359 --> 02:13:47,400
because they were they were rushing that

2925
02:13:53,419 --> 02:13:50,369
program and the Russians lost three

2926
02:13:55,129 --> 02:13:53,429
brave brave cosmonauts because they they

2927
02:13:57,589 --> 02:13:55,139
wanted to fly three of them in the

2928
02:13:59,359 --> 02:13:57,599
capsule it was built for two men and the

2929
02:14:01,219 --> 02:13:59,369
only way they could do that was have

2930
02:14:03,560 --> 02:14:01,229
them in there without spacesuits and of

2931
02:14:06,589 --> 02:14:03,570
course the Murphy's Law struck pressure

2932
02:14:09,319 --> 02:14:06,599
shield broke and the three cosmonauts

2933
02:14:13,910 --> 02:14:09,329
died from lack of oxygen on the way back

2934
02:14:15,379 --> 02:14:13,920
into the atmosphere and they opened up

2935
02:14:17,479 --> 02:14:15,389
the capsule and they were all in there

2936
02:14:20,899 --> 02:14:17,489
dead and there was a terrible tragedy

2937
02:14:23,149 --> 02:14:20,909
and but it shows that they were there a

2938
02:14:24,469 --> 02:14:23,159
bunch of brave men but they both the

2939
02:14:27,589 --> 02:14:24,479
Russians in the United States were

2940
02:14:29,390 --> 02:14:27,599
launching guys all the time and you know

2941
02:14:30,979 --> 02:14:29,400
the Russians are doing a spacewalk and

2942
02:14:33,859 --> 02:14:30,989
then we do a spacewalk with a longer

2943
02:14:35,779 --> 02:14:33,869
tether the next month just to show them

2944
02:14:39,140 --> 02:14:35,789
you know our tether is long ten feet

2945
02:14:42,679 --> 02:14:39,150
longer than your tether and that was how

2946
02:14:45,049 --> 02:14:42,689
the space race was won the Chinese have

2947
02:14:47,959 --> 02:14:45,059
been launching guys like once every

2948
02:14:51,169 --> 02:14:47,969
three years they're not going there

2949
02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:51,179
they're being really careful they don't

2950
02:14:57,500 --> 02:14:54,090
want to make any mistakes and so

2951
02:14:59,689 --> 02:14:57,510
therefore I say with American can-do we

2952
02:15:03,160 --> 02:14:59,699
if we decide we wake up one morning side

2953
02:15:05,359 --> 02:15:03,170
of the when the Chinese like here's my

2954
02:15:08,089 --> 02:15:05,369
scenario for the Chinese landing on the

2955
02:15:10,339 --> 02:15:08,099
moon my ideal scenario is they are met

2956
02:15:13,189 --> 02:15:10,349
greeted immediately by a party of

2957
02:15:14,689 --> 02:15:13,199
American astronauts and invited back to

2958
02:15:17,729 --> 02:15:14,699
the American moon base for a steak

2959
02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:17,739
dinner you know

2960
02:15:25,709 --> 02:15:23,530
you opened up a can of beans let's do

2961
02:15:27,689 --> 02:15:25,719
the kind of Western thing here where we

2962
02:15:30,419 --> 02:15:27,699
got a big barbecue and maybe we'll have

2963
02:15:32,879 --> 02:15:30,429
some you know it is which is kind of

2964
02:15:35,370 --> 02:15:32,889
like Southwest imitation Mexican food

2965
02:15:38,310 --> 02:15:35,380
that kind of thing

2966
02:15:41,669 --> 02:15:38,320
we'll have some Coors beer and have a

2967
02:15:45,959 --> 02:15:41,679
great time the beach Chinese Thai

2968
02:15:47,959 --> 02:15:45,969
coconuts will be treated very well the

2969
02:15:50,939 --> 02:15:47,969
Chinese are really moving pretty fast

2970
02:15:53,129 --> 02:15:50,949
but I wonder about the South Koreans in

2971
02:15:55,290 --> 02:15:53,139
South Korea they're doing very well with

2972
02:15:56,160 --> 02:15:55,300
cars why not with some kind of space

2973
02:15:59,009 --> 02:15:56,170
program

2974
02:16:03,810 --> 02:15:59,019
well the like the Japanese for instance

2975
02:16:06,689 --> 02:16:03,820
have launched a probe that the Europeans

2976
02:16:08,339 --> 02:16:06,699
and the Japanese had launched capsules

2977
02:16:11,339 --> 02:16:08,349
and out of the space station that docked

2978
02:16:13,020 --> 02:16:11,349
with it automatically and they could put

2979
02:16:15,060 --> 02:16:13,030
they have pressurized compartments on

2980
02:16:17,549 --> 02:16:15,070
both of them they could easily put

2981
02:16:19,560 --> 02:16:17,559
either Japanese or European astronauts

2982
02:16:21,810 --> 02:16:19,570
in there but you gotta realize the

2983
02:16:24,509 --> 02:16:21,820
Europeans and the Japanese don't do that

2984
02:16:26,250 --> 02:16:24,519
sort of thing they wait for the United

2985
02:16:29,310 --> 02:16:26,260
States and the Russians to do stuff like

2986
02:16:31,290 --> 02:16:29,320
that where the Cowboys leave it to the

2987
02:16:33,330 --> 02:16:31,300
Cowboys in the context we get too far

2988
02:16:35,790 --> 02:16:33,340
afield here wait a minute you just said

2989
02:16:37,830 --> 02:16:35,800
the Chinese when they they land on the

2990
02:16:39,389 --> 02:16:37,840
moon who gonna be invited by Americans

2991
02:16:41,219 --> 02:16:39,399
to go have a steak dinner now were you

2992
02:16:44,160 --> 02:16:41,229
just making a joke there or was there a

2993
02:16:46,110 --> 02:16:44,170
little hint of no no that's my let's

2994
02:16:49,290 --> 02:16:46,120
talk about that real quick what do you

2995
02:16:52,650 --> 02:16:49,300
what are you reading week we have the

2996
02:16:54,660 --> 02:16:52,660
space and the space shuttle once you

2997
02:16:56,849 --> 02:16:54,670
disassemble and use it like a Spock's a

2998
02:17:00,689 --> 02:16:56,859
tinker toys you can build a Saturn 5

2999
02:17:02,790 --> 02:17:00,699
rocket that's what they're gonna do so

3000
02:17:06,570 --> 02:17:02,800
going to you have you take the core

3001
02:17:08,669 --> 02:17:06,580
propulsion for the space shuttle takeoff

3002
02:17:10,349 --> 02:17:08,679
the space shuttle take the engines off a

3003
02:17:13,169 --> 02:17:10,359
space shuttle put them on the bottom of

3004
02:17:17,669 --> 02:17:13,179
the fuel tank you have a Saturn 5 rocket

3005
02:17:20,099 --> 02:17:17,679
and we have new types of rocket fuel

3006
02:17:23,580 --> 02:17:20,109
that we can put in the solid rocket

3007
02:17:24,929 --> 02:17:23,590
boosters and that it gives improves its

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02:17:28,080 --> 02:17:24,939
performance makes it much

3009
02:17:28,919 --> 02:17:28,090
environmentally cleaner and we will have

3010
02:17:30,179 --> 02:17:28,929
a moon rocket

3011
02:17:32,009 --> 02:17:30,189
every time they launch the Space Shuttle

3012
02:17:34,500 --> 02:17:32,019
are putting about a hundred tons in

3013
02:17:37,969 --> 02:17:34,510
orbit that's as much as saturn v moon

3014
02:17:40,650 --> 02:17:37,979
rocket did just because that you know

3015
02:17:42,709 --> 02:17:40,660
about sixty tons of that flies back and

3016
02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:42,719
lands on the runway people don't

3017
02:17:49,070 --> 02:17:46,210
understand what we're doing once we

3018
02:17:51,870 --> 02:17:49,080
decide we're gonna go back to the moon

3019
02:17:53,639 --> 02:17:51,880
especially if we're decide there's

3020
02:17:57,299 --> 02:17:53,649
something valuable there that we cannot

3021
02:17:58,860 --> 02:17:57,309
allow another nation to nominate you saw

3022
02:18:01,410 --> 02:17:58,870
what the Chinese are doing rare earths

3023
02:18:03,839 --> 02:18:01,420
right you're cornering the market on

3024
02:18:05,820 --> 02:18:03,849
rare earths and then when they the

3025
02:18:07,320 --> 02:18:05,830
Chinese and the Japanese had a little

3026
02:18:09,870 --> 02:18:07,330
scuffle over some fishing boat or

3027
02:18:12,389 --> 02:18:09,880
something the Chinese just cut off all

3028
02:18:15,179 --> 02:18:12,399
the rare earths to Japan so the Japanese

3029
02:18:17,729 --> 02:18:15,189
electronics industry couldn't basically

3030
02:18:19,200 --> 02:18:17,739
had to shut down so Japanese are running

3031
02:18:21,660 --> 02:18:19,210
all over the world now trying to find

3032
02:18:22,950 --> 02:18:21,670
rare earth mines by the way they're not

3033
02:18:26,309 --> 02:18:22,960
that fortunately they're not that rare

3034
02:18:30,089 --> 02:18:26,319
they're it's they're just hard to refine

3035
02:18:32,669 --> 02:18:30,099
what the Chinese have already showed

3036
02:18:35,240 --> 02:18:32,679
that they will if they find a vital

3037
02:18:39,839 --> 02:18:35,250
resource they'll try and dominate it and

3038
02:18:42,209 --> 02:18:39,849
abuse abuse their privileges I have very

3039
02:18:46,139 --> 02:18:42,219
little patience with the People's

3040
02:18:48,599 --> 02:18:46,149
Republic of China oh they've shown their

3041
02:18:51,179 --> 02:18:48,609
hand they've shown their hand and in

3042
02:18:53,570 --> 02:18:51,189
Tibet and with this rare earth thing we

3043
02:18:55,650 --> 02:18:53,580
don't want them going to moon first and

3044
02:18:58,169 --> 02:18:55,660
saying they're gonna sell us helium-3

3045
02:19:01,879 --> 02:18:58,179
sure but here's the problem here there

3046
02:19:04,860 --> 02:19:01,889
seems to be no incentive on the part of

3047
02:19:07,049 --> 02:19:04,870
Congress to do anything really serious

3048
02:19:09,570 --> 02:19:07,059
of space exploration how do you

3049
02:19:12,540 --> 02:19:09,580
incentivize this how do you say hey guys

3050
02:19:14,459 --> 02:19:12,550
we got to do it and we have all these

3051
02:19:16,559 --> 02:19:14,469
people knew and we're saying we got to

3052
02:19:18,360 --> 02:19:16,569
cut this we've got to cut that how can

3053
02:19:19,950 --> 02:19:18,370
you come back and say okay give us 50

3054
02:19:23,189 --> 02:19:19,960
billion dollars to get us to the Moon

3055
02:19:25,439 --> 02:19:23,199
and Mars as quickly as possible well for

3056
02:19:28,229 --> 02:19:25,449
one thing you must realize that when we

3057
02:19:32,099 --> 02:19:28,239
send stuff in when we send Americans

3058
02:19:35,250 --> 02:19:32,109
into space that sends a message that is

3059
02:19:37,740 --> 02:19:35,260
part of our national defense in modern

3060
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the modern era you don't fight big major

3061
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Wars with major powers what you do is

3062
02:19:45,450 --> 02:19:41,410
you determine war

3063
02:19:47,910 --> 02:19:45,460
and you deterrence because of nuclear

3064
02:19:50,969 --> 02:19:47,920
weapons you don't want a new full-scale

3065
02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:50,979
war among superpowers what you have is

3066
02:19:55,500 --> 02:19:53,170
deterrence you want the other side to

3067
02:19:58,650 --> 02:19:55,510
know that they will not survive a major

3068
02:20:00,960 --> 02:19:58,660
war we may not survive either but they

3069
02:20:05,010 --> 02:20:00,970
certainly will not survive so it's in

3070
02:20:08,490 --> 02:20:05,020
their interest not to have to have any

3071
02:20:12,750 --> 02:20:08,500
major trouble with us deterrence is the

3072
02:20:15,389 --> 02:20:12,760
ability to project your capabilities to

3073
02:20:17,940 --> 02:20:15,399
everybody without actually setting off

3074
02:20:19,800 --> 02:20:17,950
bombs or doing anything like that one of

3075
02:20:21,810 --> 02:20:19,810
the best ways to do that is to launch

3076
02:20:23,219 --> 02:20:21,820
the space shovel the Space Shuttle is

3077
02:20:25,920 --> 02:20:23,229
the biggest thing in space

3078
02:20:28,770 --> 02:20:25,930
it's a Buck Rogers spaceship it can grab

3079
02:20:31,290 --> 02:20:28,780
the Russian space capsule with its robot

3080
02:20:34,230 --> 02:20:31,300
arm and put it tuck it into its cargo

3081
02:20:38,070 --> 02:20:34,240
bay and carry it back to its mommy the

3082
02:20:40,590 --> 02:20:38,080
Space Shuttle when when was developed

3083
02:20:42,650 --> 02:20:40,600
under Carter and launched under Reagan

3084
02:20:46,290 --> 02:20:42,660
and after it had launched a few times

3085
02:20:47,850 --> 02:20:46,300
the Russians were horrified because it

3086
02:20:49,910 --> 02:20:47,860
was so much more bigger and more

3087
02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:49,920
advanced than anything they had in space

3088
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:52,930
the reason Reagan could propose Star

3089
02:20:57,510 --> 02:20:55,210
Wars is because of the space shuttle

3090
02:21:01,889 --> 02:20:57,520
space shuttles showed Americans were

3091
02:21:05,429 --> 02:21:01,899
supreme in space technology you know and

3092
02:21:06,870 --> 02:21:05,439
what you do now is you don't in fact

3093
02:21:08,250 --> 02:21:06,880
I've told people they should just keep

3094
02:21:11,850 --> 02:21:08,260
launching the shuttle till we get the

3095
02:21:16,889 --> 02:21:11,860
Dragon 9 online just do it won't cost

3096
02:21:21,020 --> 02:21:16,899
that much launch one a year and once you

3097
02:21:24,030 --> 02:21:21,030
do that by the way they could put a a

3098
02:21:27,810 --> 02:21:24,040
seat in the x-37b the little miniature

3099
02:21:29,940 --> 02:21:27,820
shuttle they just launched and we could

3100
02:21:33,650 --> 02:21:29,950
have Americans in space just about any

3101
02:21:37,260 --> 02:21:33,660
time we want to but the Space Shuttle

3102
02:21:38,910 --> 02:21:37,270
was part of our national defense it is

3103
02:21:41,360 --> 02:21:38,920
part of our national defense it shows

3104
02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:41,370
that Americans are supreme in space

3105
02:21:49,139 --> 02:21:45,610
every time it launches a lot of those

3106
02:21:51,990 --> 02:21:49,149
ends of the way we left it

3107
02:21:54,780 --> 02:21:52,000
if we let the Chinese go to the moon

3108
02:21:58,710 --> 02:21:54,790
force it shows where a paper tiger or

3109
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have been we understand John we

3110
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understand the political ramifications

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and when we get to our final political

3112
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John we're gonna ask you and once we get

3113
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towards a solution to get us back to the

3115
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moon to get us moving to Mars a lot

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faster than we otherwise might be able

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to do it our guest is dr. John

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Brandenburg the book is life and death

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on Mars the new Mars synthesis and it

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tells me we got to get back there the

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3229
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3230
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director for the mutual UFO network you

3231
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are listening to the parrot cast the

3232
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that's news at the power cast comm this

3236
02:27:19,781 --> 02:27:17,631
is our final segment with dr. John

3237
02:27:21,850 --> 02:27:19,791
Brandenburg we're talking about Mars the

3238
02:27:24,011 --> 02:27:21,860
co-host Chris O'Brien I'm gene Steinberg

3239
02:27:26,020 --> 02:27:24,021
you're in the power cast I am NOT a

3240
02:27:28,690 --> 02:27:26,030
Martian ladies and gentlemen I know some

3241
02:27:30,430 --> 02:27:28,700
people you know they say you know men

3242
02:27:31,301 --> 02:27:30,440
are from Mars Women are from Venus or

3243
02:27:34,121 --> 02:27:31,311
vice versa

3244
02:27:36,220 --> 02:27:34,131
I never got that right okay so I'm still

3245
02:27:38,140 --> 02:27:36,230
looking for an answer here and it's not

3246
02:27:39,701 --> 02:27:38,150
maybe because the Chinese might do it

3247
02:27:42,310 --> 02:27:39,711
but I'm still looking for an answer

3248
02:27:44,770 --> 02:27:42,320
maybe I'm not hearing it John how do we

3249
02:27:47,051 --> 02:27:44,780
turn things around with a space program

3250
02:27:49,270 --> 02:27:47,061
this is what we could do and again can

3251
02:27:52,121 --> 02:27:49,280
well if nothing else happens can we get

3252
02:27:54,730 --> 02:27:52,131
all those billionaires to do it for us

3253
02:27:57,251 --> 02:27:54,740
well for one thing if you find evidence

3254
02:27:58,930 --> 02:27:57,261
for a giant nuclear explosion on Mars

3255
02:28:00,911 --> 02:27:58,940
you go to conferences and talk about it

3256
02:28:02,951 --> 02:28:00,921
and you write a book about it so that

3257
02:28:04,871 --> 02:28:02,961
everyone knows that this happened and it

3258
02:28:07,421 --> 02:28:04,881
becomes imperative for us to investigate

3259
02:28:10,091 --> 02:28:07,431
it and that means American astronauts

3260
02:28:12,940 --> 02:28:10,101
have to go to Mars first and investigate

3261
02:28:14,711 --> 02:28:12,950
it now the same goes for let's say

3262
02:28:17,980 --> 02:28:14,721
rumors of a dead civilization on Mars

3263
02:28:20,261 --> 02:28:17,990
you can't let the Chinese go to Mars

3264
02:28:21,640 --> 02:28:20,271
first no we have to examine the ruins

3265
02:28:24,611 --> 02:28:21,650
first it looks like a primitive

3266
02:28:27,100 --> 02:28:24,621
civilization but we don't know its level

3267
02:28:29,140 --> 02:28:27,110
of technology suppose they have super

3268
02:28:31,301 --> 02:28:29,150
weapons buried in the rubble that

3269
02:28:33,220 --> 02:28:31,311
somebody who lands there could learn and

3270
02:28:35,741 --> 02:28:33,230
then gain an advantage on earth you

3271
02:28:37,781 --> 02:28:35,751
can't let that sort of thing happen not

3272
02:28:40,480 --> 02:28:37,791
if you're a forward-looking country like

3273
02:28:42,401 --> 02:28:40,490
this and that almost doesn't it almost

3274
02:28:44,770 --> 02:28:42,411
doesn't matter anymore whether you're a

3275
02:28:47,501 --> 02:28:44,780
liberal democrat or a conservative

3276
02:28:49,060 --> 02:28:47,511
Republican you can't let certain things

3277
02:28:51,300 --> 02:28:49,070
happen and one of the things you can't

3278
02:28:53,960 --> 02:28:51,310
let happen you can't

3279
02:28:57,569 --> 02:28:53,970
allow evidence for a planet-destroying

3280
02:29:00,300 --> 02:28:57,579
phenomenon go uninvestigated or worse

3281
02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:00,310
yet go investigated by other superpowers

3282
02:29:03,929 --> 02:29:02,050
while you're sitting at home waiting

3283
02:29:06,210 --> 02:29:03,939
they'll give you a copy of their final

3284
02:29:08,719 --> 02:29:06,220
report no you have to send your own

3285
02:29:11,490 --> 02:29:08,729
people there to ascertain the facts if

3286
02:29:13,830 --> 02:29:11,500
the Russians and the Chinese

3287
02:29:16,740 --> 02:29:13,840
once is investigated together with us

3288
02:29:19,019 --> 02:29:16,750
wonderful they can pay for their share

3289
02:29:22,040 --> 02:29:19,029
of the freight to get to Mars but you

3290
02:29:24,569 --> 02:29:22,050
cannot no responsible American

3291
02:29:26,670 --> 02:29:24,579
administration of any political

3292
02:29:29,460 --> 02:29:26,680
persuasion will allow any other

3293
02:29:31,349 --> 02:29:29,470
superpower to get to Mars first and then

3294
02:29:33,990 --> 02:29:31,359
require that though is it going to

3295
02:29:36,689 --> 02:29:34,000
require that the superpower the other

3296
02:29:38,760 --> 02:29:36,699
one like China suddenly shows a more

3297
02:29:42,330 --> 02:29:38,770
overt effort towards their space program

3298
02:29:46,040 --> 02:29:42,340
will that be the thing that will make us

3299
02:29:48,899 --> 02:29:46,050
want to do so oh it's always in react

3300
02:29:52,080 --> 02:29:48,909
here's the point I'm making it okay so

3301
02:29:53,010 --> 02:29:52,090
back in the 50s we had the Russians

3302
02:29:55,170 --> 02:29:53,020
launch Sputnik

3303
02:29:56,939 --> 02:29:55,180
that was our Sputnik moment as we're

3304
02:29:58,620 --> 02:29:56,949
talking about now they've already said

3305
02:30:00,660 --> 02:29:58,630
it we've already had our spot in a

3306
02:30:02,250 --> 02:30:00,670
moment then we're going to go to the

3307
02:30:04,380 --> 02:30:02,260
moon what they told us they were gonna

3308
02:30:06,599 --> 02:30:04,390
go to the moon to harness helium-3 for

3309
02:30:08,580 --> 02:30:06,609
fusion a week later they said oh we

3310
02:30:10,590 --> 02:30:08,590
didn't really say that they actually did

3311
02:30:13,019 --> 02:30:10,600
this they said oh we didn't mean that

3312
02:30:15,809 --> 02:30:13,029
okay so they had a it's a Sputnik moment

3313
02:30:18,179 --> 02:30:15,819
that was walked back oh yes they walked

3314
02:30:20,609 --> 02:30:18,189
it back cuz they they studied what

3315
02:30:23,340 --> 02:30:20,619
happened to the Russians they know this

3316
02:30:26,580 --> 02:30:23,350
country once it gets it's mine to do

3317
02:30:28,679 --> 02:30:26,590
something can do astonishing and

3318
02:30:31,109 --> 02:30:28,689
terrible thing well yeah but you're

3319
02:30:33,450 --> 02:30:31,119
arguing John against this theory you're

3320
02:30:35,460 --> 02:30:33,460
saying here that they're afraid to have

3321
02:30:37,679 --> 02:30:35,470
that new Sputnik moment they're afraid

3322
02:30:39,030 --> 02:30:37,689
to admit what they're going to do or

3323
02:30:41,399 --> 02:30:39,040
what they hope to do because they don't

3324
02:30:44,880 --> 02:30:41,409
want to inspire us because we work best

3325
02:30:47,519 --> 02:30:44,890
in reaction to a crisis not as they say

3326
02:30:50,309 --> 02:30:47,529
being proactive in a situational space

3327
02:30:52,200 --> 02:30:50,319
program we were react we were defensive

3328
02:30:54,420 --> 02:30:52,210
reactive now it's going to take

3329
02:30:56,040 --> 02:30:54,430
something else what about et would et

3330
02:30:58,530 --> 02:30:56,050
have to land here would that help us

3331
02:31:00,269 --> 02:30:58,540
change things can we hold back at et

3332
02:31:02,649 --> 02:31:00,279
we'll be here next you'll have to read

3333
02:31:05,710 --> 02:31:02,659
my novel Morningstar past

3334
02:31:10,120 --> 02:31:05,720
explore that scenario et is probably

3335
02:31:11,710 --> 02:31:10,130
already landed here just like in a 1950

3336
02:31:13,960 --> 02:31:11,720
science fiction movie you want to know

3337
02:31:16,660 --> 02:31:13,970
where the first UFO abduction occurred

3338
02:31:19,059 --> 02:31:16,670
in a movie made in 1958 called the

3339
02:31:21,070 --> 02:31:19,069
mysterion's was a Japanese monster movie

3340
02:31:22,870 --> 02:31:21,080
and it had people in flying saucers

3341
02:31:25,240 --> 02:31:22,880
abducting earth women that was related

3342
02:31:27,639 --> 02:31:25,250
50s yeah late fifties right after

3343
02:31:30,540 --> 02:31:27,649
funding and that was when the Japanese

3344
02:31:33,250 --> 02:31:30,550
were first making all these nuclear

3345
02:31:35,170 --> 02:31:33,260
disaster movies like oh yeah Godzilla

3346
02:31:36,370 --> 02:31:35,180
Godzilla didn't come here because he

3347
02:31:39,160 --> 02:31:36,380
just came out of the ground

3348
02:31:41,500 --> 02:31:39,170
he was the result of mutation from a

3349
02:31:45,519 --> 02:31:41,510
nuclear weapons experimental right right

3350
02:31:47,830 --> 02:31:45,529
he came in trash Tokyo and Raymond Burr

3351
02:31:50,229 --> 02:31:47,840
in the American version was of course

3352
02:31:55,389 --> 02:31:50,239
there to tell us about it oh yes I I

3353
02:31:58,090 --> 02:31:55,399
love that movie I called the King

3354
02:31:59,649 --> 02:31:58,100
brothers bring this movie to America and

3355
02:32:02,229 --> 02:31:59,659
what they did is they dubbed it and they

3356
02:32:04,389 --> 02:32:02,239
filmed extra stuff and to make it local

3357
02:32:06,820 --> 02:32:04,399
to make it more appealing to Americans

3358
02:32:09,399 --> 02:32:06,830
they had Raymond Burr filmed these

3359
02:32:11,229 --> 02:32:09,409
segments oh yeah well if they did a good

3360
02:32:14,590 --> 02:32:11,239
job because it was a very effective

3361
02:32:17,019 --> 02:32:14,600
movie I mean it was it was scary even

3362
02:32:18,880 --> 02:32:17,029
though it was a big monster and tanks

3363
02:32:21,040 --> 02:32:18,890
were shooting at it and stuff like this

3364
02:32:22,660 --> 02:32:21,050
it wasn't like a werewolf creeping up on

3365
02:32:25,269 --> 02:32:22,670
you in the middle of the night it was a

3366
02:32:27,099 --> 02:32:25,279
scary movie because it was so stark and

3367
02:32:29,920 --> 02:32:27,109
rape I thought they put together a nice

3368
02:32:33,340 --> 02:32:29,930
movie including Raymond Burr because he

3369
02:32:36,609 --> 02:32:33,350
he basically would he had gravitas he'd

3370
02:32:38,830 --> 02:32:36,619
get on those are native right and his

3371
02:32:40,750 --> 02:32:38,840
best Perry Mason voice he'd make you

3372
02:32:43,960 --> 02:32:40,760
believe what was going on let's get away

3373
02:32:46,389 --> 02:32:43,970
from that okay sure sure so the key is

3374
02:32:48,429 --> 02:32:46,399
here the Chinese right now according to

3375
02:32:50,559 --> 02:32:48,439
what you say are afraid to create a new

3376
02:32:52,059 --> 02:32:50,569
Sputnik moment for space exploration and

3377
02:32:55,450 --> 02:32:52,069
let them be played let them be very

3378
02:32:56,979 --> 02:32:55,460
afraid okay so basically there's nothing

3379
02:33:00,729 --> 02:32:56,989
it's gonna happen right now

3380
02:33:03,010 --> 02:33:00,739
to convince the u.s. to suddenly start a

3381
02:33:05,859 --> 02:33:03,020
new space program except not but they

3382
02:33:06,939 --> 02:33:05,869
were already able to tell they won't be

3383
02:33:09,580 --> 02:33:06,949
able to you know when they launched

3384
02:33:11,920 --> 02:33:09,590
their first manned mission they waited

3385
02:33:14,649 --> 02:33:11,930
till the challenge the Columbia after

3386
02:33:15,490 --> 02:33:14,659
the Columbia disaster where we were

3387
02:33:17,769 --> 02:33:15,500
grounded

3388
02:33:20,170 --> 02:33:17,779
that's what they do they didn't they

3389
02:33:22,030 --> 02:33:20,180
wanted to lord it over us they couldn't

3390
02:33:23,679 --> 02:33:22,040
help themselves so if it's not the

3391
02:33:27,429 --> 02:33:23,689
Chinese is there anything else that

3392
02:33:29,830 --> 02:33:27,439
could you know the Russians have a lot

3393
02:33:32,170 --> 02:33:29,840
of oil money and they already have a

3394
02:33:34,300 --> 02:33:32,180
moon rocket called the energy up that

3395
02:33:36,490 --> 02:33:34,310
they could they I have the blueprints it

3396
02:33:38,740 --> 02:33:36,500
was launched twice it was very

3397
02:33:40,179 --> 02:33:38,750
successful and they have a lot of oil

3398
02:33:42,460 --> 02:33:40,189
money now in fact they're making money

3399
02:33:43,990 --> 02:33:42,470
every day because of all this trouble in

3400
02:33:46,120 --> 02:33:44,000
the Middle East because we get a lot of

3401
02:33:49,030 --> 02:33:46,130
our oil from Russia and maybe they're

3402
02:33:51,580 --> 02:33:49,040
controlling the oil speculators - all

3403
02:33:54,250 --> 02:33:51,590
very surprised well if you if you're if

3404
02:34:00,429 --> 02:33:54,260
you're Vladimir Putin you're sitting

3405
02:34:01,690 --> 02:34:00,439
there eating popcorn I don't think he's

3406
02:34:06,610 --> 02:34:01,700
that kind of person I think he's a

3407
02:34:10,599 --> 02:34:06,620
health food nut you know he's he's a

3408
02:34:14,349 --> 02:34:10,609
very smart guy and well by the way what

3409
02:34:16,179 --> 02:34:14,359
they're gonna do my my proposal back was

3410
02:34:18,280 --> 02:34:16,189
to continue the shuttle program and one

3411
02:34:21,190 --> 02:34:18,290
launch a year and I hope they do I

3412
02:34:23,349 --> 02:34:21,200
believe they will do that but if they

3413
02:34:26,349 --> 02:34:23,359
don't we're gonna end the shuttle

3414
02:34:27,820 --> 02:34:26,359
program with great fanfare and the

3415
02:34:31,510 --> 02:34:27,830
Chinese are gonna immediately start

3416
02:34:33,610 --> 02:34:31,520
launching many man people in those

3417
02:34:35,979 --> 02:34:33,620
spaces they can because they're gonna

3418
02:34:40,630 --> 02:34:35,989
they're gonna make us lose face so maybe

3419
02:34:42,670 --> 02:34:40,640
they just saying John they're going to

3420
02:34:45,309 --> 02:34:42,680
do without telling us they're just going

3421
02:34:46,330 --> 02:34:45,319
to launch the probe lon oh yeah the trip

3422
02:34:48,429 --> 02:34:46,340
to the mall you're not going to

3423
02:34:50,320 --> 02:34:48,439
Telegraph this information they're gonna

3424
02:34:52,090 --> 02:34:50,330
keep it secret they're going to launch

3425
02:34:54,729 --> 02:34:52,100
this and one day we'll wake up it's

3426
02:34:57,309 --> 02:34:54,739
already happened it's too late oh well

3427
02:35:01,599 --> 02:34:57,319
we keep it careful it's very difficult

3428
02:35:03,729 --> 02:35:01,609
to disguise a space launch but they're

3429
02:35:05,200 --> 02:35:03,739
gonna try and rub our faces in the fact

3430
02:35:05,710 --> 02:35:05,210
that we won't have a manned space

3431
02:35:10,540 --> 02:35:05,720
program

3432
02:35:12,460 --> 02:35:10,550
once we if we stop the shuttle I said

3433
02:35:14,170 --> 02:35:12,470
keep the shuttle going at one launch a

3434
02:35:19,269 --> 02:35:14,180
year until we have a replacement for

3435
02:35:21,660 --> 02:35:19,279
Dragon 9 or the you know the the dragon

3436
02:35:24,790 --> 02:35:21,670
space capsule have that delivering

3437
02:35:27,830 --> 02:35:24,800
americans to the space station then then

3438
02:35:31,250 --> 02:35:29,599
okay but why would they listen to John

3439
02:35:35,139 --> 02:35:31,260
Brandenburg they must have their own

3440
02:35:38,750 --> 02:35:35,149
ideas what they don't listen to you Oh

3441
02:35:41,660 --> 02:35:38,760
some people listen to me okay well we've

3442
02:35:43,700 --> 02:35:41,670
been listening to John we're just about

3443
02:35:45,860 --> 02:35:43,710
the end of this second journey with you

3444
02:35:48,200 --> 02:35:45,870
well the book again is called life and

3445
02:35:50,410 --> 02:35:48,210
death on Mars the new Mars synthesis

3446
02:35:53,170 --> 02:35:50,420
where all this is outlined all the

3447
02:35:56,510 --> 02:35:53,180
possibilities that make further Mars

3448
02:35:59,270 --> 02:35:56,520
exploration so compelling so attractive

3449
02:36:01,310 --> 02:35:59,280
maybe we did originate from Mars in some

3450
02:36:03,530 --> 02:36:01,320
fashion who knows what we might find

3451
02:36:04,940 --> 02:36:03,540
there what mysteries to resolve where

3452
02:36:08,540 --> 02:36:04,950
can our listeners find more of the

3453
02:36:10,610 --> 02:36:08,550
things you do um let's see oh I'm gonna

3454
02:36:13,340 --> 02:36:10,620
put up a Facebook page here pretty quick

3455
02:36:16,040 --> 02:36:13,350
I finally broken down decided to do that

3456
02:36:18,139 --> 02:36:16,050
and so if you're on Facebook you'll be

3457
02:36:20,450 --> 02:36:18,149
seeing a my facebook page where I'll

3458
02:36:22,730 --> 02:36:20,460
have kind of some of the things I do and

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the books that I've written and see his

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face ladies and gentlemen it'll be the

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face on Mars Chris O'Brien where do we

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find more of your stuff at our strange

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planet comm and of course all right we

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got a forum stop the podcast calm and

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John we got to have you back to talk

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about your new book which is the gym

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unified young actually well he was

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mostly right dr. John Brandenburg thank

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you so much for joining us this week on

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the Pera gasps okay we have to go to

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Mars first and find out what caused the

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big explosion

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there is a copy of the presentation of

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making the impossible incorporated tune